Boris and the burka

A young Muslim mum was left “embarrassed and humiliated” after a First bus driver told her she should remove her face veil. The 20-year-old, who was travelling on the First bus 24 from Easton to Bristol city centre, was shocked when the bus driver launched into a tirade as soon as she got on with her two-month-old baby. She was wearing a niqab - a veil for the face that leaves the area around the eyes clear - and had simply asked for the fare.

“He said he couldn’t see my face, and that he didn’t know what I was ‘capable of doing’,” the mum, who asked not to be named, said. “He said I was scary and I was dangerous, and he kept talking about it during the journey. I didn’t say anything. “He continued to insult me, and he made me out to be a terrorist, and kept saying everyone should see each other's faces. He asked why I was wearing a balaclava.”

First Bus has now apologised, saying the driver had made a massive error. [LINK]
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The driver should be "encouraged" to take up some job where he does not come into contact with humans.

However, now that Bonker Boris has spoken out, things like this will never happen again - even in Bristol.
 
Yadda said:
I don't make assumptions. My assessment is based on the words they speak.
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It can't be. You described the words they speak as not being honest, not showing their true views. So you can't be making the assessment based on the words they speak. You must be making your assessment based on the views you assume they hold and don't speak about.
 
mmj_uk said:
Look no further than this video to see the sort of mentality behind the Burqa:

"I think you look naked on the street"

"Who are you trying to seduce?"

"I am judging you"

"Go and put on some clothes"

That's a pretty extremist/scary mindset if you ask me and it's the reason why grooming gangs up and down the country saw young white girls as fair game (in their own twisted minds).
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They want to take over the world dont they. Tiny minded people. They feed off of the UK but have no respect for the country, the people, or the authorities. Sad...
 
dowie said:
It isn't irrelevant at all, there are valid security issues relating to people covering their heads thus why you shouldn't walk into a bank or jewellery store with a balaclava or motorcycle helmet on.
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This all day. This is all it boils down to
No one should be exempt from British law, for any reason. This includes full face covers like burka and niqab. It's not hard. It's so easy. It's sad that it's going to have to come to a ban. Will cause a lot of extra community tention because of the disrespectful attitude to the law.
 
stockhausen said:
Yes, the CIA do have a long history of "encouraging" Western culture overseas.

Meanwhile, back to Bonker Boris and his efforts to incite violence . . .
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you seem to be suggesting that the cia was responsible for iran being that way??

If you are thats simply not true and islam had been progressive in a number of countries centuries before the cia existed.
 
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Yas786 said:
That’s fair enough. I didn’t ask you for your opinion of religions, whether it be Islam, Christianity or Judaism. So perhaps you want to knock that chip off your shoulder there. I asked you to show me where in the Quran does it say a woman must wear a burka, a simple point in which you failed to address due to you not being into books. But then that leads me to think you are just a sheep that follows the crowd, if you aren’t willing to expand your knowledge about something you do not know about.

Yes muslim women wear burkas, but it’s absolutely nothing to do with Islam. But if wearing such a garment makes you equate that this is something Islam pressures women into doing then you are wrong.
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I agree that the Quran doesn't explicitly tell women to wear a burka, but it does tell them to dress modestly. This has been interpreted by *some* Islamic scholars to mean covered from head to toe, which these women accept without question. So the notion that they dress this way out of "personal choice" isn't strictly true, as they are still complying with a dress code interpreted by men from a book written by men. A lot of them describe the burka as an outward expression of their spirituality or worship towards God, so to claim "it’s absolutely nothing to do with Islam" is false in that respect.
 
Angilion said:
It can't be. You described the words they speak as not being honest, not showing their true views. So you can't be making the assessment based on the words they speak. You must be making your assessment based on the views you assume they hold and don't speak about.
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dowie said:
So you were wrong to say they could be more honest then?
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You realise there's a difference between how freely people speak in real life and what they type online, right?
 
Efour said:
Not for everyone. It's a big assumption.
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You're right, a few are as racist online as they are in real life but they are a minority because they soon get banned for their views.

Hence the whole "I'm not racist, I just don't like Islam" shtick.
 
Yadda said:
You're right, a few are as racist online as they are in real life but they are a minority because they soon get banned for their views.

Hence the whole "I'm not racist, I just don't like Islam" shtick.
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What a bizarre train of thought, equally daft as saying "I'm not racist, I just don't like Scientology".

Are you implying that anyone who doesn't like the Islamic ideology is racist?
 
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