Woman held in Dubai with daughter after drinking wine on flight

sigma · 11 Aug 2018 at 11:01

I'm literally frothing at the mouth due to this major international incident reported by a piece of world class journalism. Thankfully Brexit will fix it.

sigma · 11 Aug 2018 at 11:03

Destination said:
What pressure?
They own half the country. They have shares in everything, supply us with oil as we are not pushing our own resources. Will end up owning chunks of our water electricity and what not.
Between rampant military expansion through subjugation and genocide, through disruption and displacement of people, through marriage conversion and incideous infiltration, through direct immigration there is a massive spread of this culture.
We do not have any pressure to place.
None.
Someone mentions a face veil, and within days the talk is of a criminal investigation for intentional potstirring.
This is the pressure that remains to us.

People need to stop travell8ng using these airlines, stop buying products and holidays, stop going any working for large salaries, giving away skills sets and expertise abroad where the money never gets repatriated. Then that would constitute pressure. Don’t like their laws, stop contributing to their wealth.

This women had been there seven times, by then you should know never to get shirty with local police and officials, she will learn her lesson, which is why they are doing this to her, to teach her a lesson as she doesn’t fulfil their cultural norms.

What a great culture that ensures Visas are on point and police forces are not attacked. Perhaps that's where we're going wrong

Dolph · 11 Aug 2018 at 11:08

Turns up in dubai with invalid visa, argues with and films immigration officials, and tries to claim it was all about the wine.

sigma · 11 Aug 2018 at 11:13

Drunkenness in a public place.
F1... shall be liable on summary conviction to a fine not exceeding [F2level 3 on the standard scale].

Damn our backward country!!!!!!111!!

BowdonUK · 11 Aug 2018 at 11:21

Destination said:
What pressure?
They own half the country. They have shares in everything, supply us with oil as we are not pushing our own resources. Will end up owning chunks of our water electricity and what not.
Between rampant military expansion through subjugation and genocide, through disruption and displacement of people, through marriage conversion and incideous infiltration, through direct immigration there is a massive spread of this culture.
We do not have any pressure to place.
None.

It's the UAE, a country of 9 million people that is already suffering sanctions by a coalition of countries in the middle east, led by Saudi Arabia, for its dealings with Iran. UAE need all the friends it can get at the moment. They wouldnt want another country giving them problems, especially if they have all this investment in our country, not to mention the amount of investment in their country that we have. It would hurt them more than us as we have less problem countries.

Destination said:
People need to stop travelling using these airlines, stop buying products and holidays, stop going any working for large salaries, giving away skills sets and expertise abroad where the money never gets repatriated. Then that would constitute pressure. Don’t like their laws, stop contributing to their wealth.

This women had been there seven times, by then you should know never to get shirty with local police and officials, she will learn her lesson, which is why they are doing this to her, to teach her a lesson as she doesn’t fulfil their cultural norms.

I agree with this part. People need to start respecting other countries they visit or stay home. British holiday vacations are getting hotter these days thanks to some climate change! What is wrong with getting a sun tan on Blackpool beach!? You can even ride the donkeys!

rebel rebel · 11 Aug 2018 at 11:22

She's now received an apology from the govenment, and has been allowed to go home.

sigma · 11 Aug 2018 at 11:29

rebel rebel said:
She's now received an apology from the govenment, and has been allowed to go home.

I await the subsequent news story

dowie · 11 Aug 2018 at 11:31

sigma said:
What a great culture that ensures Visas are on point and police forces are not attacked. Perhaps that's where we're going wrong

Where are you reading that she attacked him?

Dolph said:
Turns up in dubai with invalid visa, argues with and films immigration officials, and tries to claim it was all about the wine.

she didn't get arrested for an invalid visa and the filming happened after the alcohol issue was brought up (presumably because she didn't realise she'd committed a crime and thought she was being stitched up)

rebel rebel said:
She's now received an apology from the govenment, and has been allowed to go home.

well that's good news, bit of media exposure does seem to help

it is interesting to see the various reactions in this thread, people accepting this sort of thing from the authorities or assuming she's done something more to somehow deserve it - some people were also clearly unaware (just as this woman was) that drinking alcohol was illegal.

Would be interesting to see the mobile phone footage, I suspect she wasn't kicking off like some angry chav but just (as reported) asking to buy a visa or trying to find out if there was some other way to resolve the situation. It is hardly unsurprising for officials there to be rude etc.. and she'd just got off a long flight with her 4 year old daughter.

rebel rebel · 11 Aug 2018 at 11:42

dowie said:
Would be interesting to see the mobile phone footage, I suspect she wasn't kicking off like some angry chav but just (as reported) asking to buy a visa or trying to find out if there was some other way to resolve the situation. It is hardly unsurprising for officials there to be rude etc.. and she'd just got off a long flight with her 4 year old daughter.

Unless she was really screaming obscenities their reaction was way over the top. Locking up a mother and 4 year-old is just barbaric.

Deleted member 66701 · 11 Aug 2018 at 12:10

200sols said:
If you read the article it says she was held for filming an official which is illegal.

Still doesn't excuse the way she was treated.

This kind of this is why I'll never turn visit these countries. I turned down an all expenses paid conference visit in UAE due to stuff like this.

CaptainRAVE · 11 Aug 2018 at 12:25

She got what she deserved. Probably another mouthy entitled cow mouthing off in a country that will actually do something about it. Never had a problem in Dubai, just stick to the law.

BowdonUK · 11 Aug 2018 at 13:13

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-drinking-wine-Emirates-flight-FREE-home.html

The dentist, from Sevenoaks, Kent, has received an apology from the Dubai Government over her detention.

She was told in a telephone call today that she can leave at any time and will not face any charges. The Dubai Government have also said they will pay for the flights home.

'I was told to prepare for a long stay in Dubai and a prison sentence. The man on the phone apologised on behalf of the immigration official who put me and Bibi through all of this. I feel like a weight is off my chest.'

Good job its sorted now.

Amnesia · 11 Aug 2018 at 13:28

how about compensating her for the money she has lost

Housey · 11 Aug 2018 at 13:44

She had an expired visa. She got shouty when questioned, whilst drunk at the airport and started to film it. They banged her up for being a stupid **** but let's not let facts get in the way.

BowdonUK · 11 Aug 2018 at 14:32

Housey said:
She had an expired visa. She got shouty when questioned, whilst drunk at the airport and started to film it. They banged her up for being a stupid **** but let's not let facts get in the way.

You haven't even looked at the facts yourself!

Just the very basic of search tells us this;

https://www.uae-embassy.org/services-resources/visas-passports/non-us-citizens

Visas are available upon arrival to UAE airports. This includes those who hold visas in their passports or entry stamps from other countries and visa is valid for a one (1) month stay in the UAE. If you plan to stay longer, you may contact the local immigration office while you are in the UAE and request an extension.]

So even if her visa had expired she could have bought another one.

dowie · 11 Aug 2018 at 14:53

Housey said:
She had an expired visa. She got shouty when questioned, whilst drunk at the airport and started to film it. They banged her up for being a stupid **** but let's not let facts get in the way.

You haven't presented any fact, you've just speculated that she was shouty and you've erroneously claimed she was drunk when the only fact we have is that she had one glass of wine on the place (she was travelling with a 4 year old so I doubt she got hammered) and that she readily admitted to that when asked by the official + underwent a blood test.

Also if the above posted by Bowdon is true that she actually could have bought a visa then it isn't surprising that she argued with the official/didn't just accept turning around and getting another long haul flight back to the UK with a 4 year old kid.

CaptainRAVE · 11 Aug 2018 at 14:56

BowdonUK said:
So even if her visa had expired she could have bought another one.

But instead she became self entitled, yelled at the immigration officer and then started recording him. Plenty of other countries would do the same. She got what she deserved.

dowie · 11 Aug 2018 at 14:59

CaptainRAVE said:
But instead she became self entitled, yelled at the immigration officer and then started recording him. Plenty of other countries would do the same. She got what she deserved.

How do you know she yelled at him or acted self entitled?

CaptainRAVE · 11 Aug 2018 at 15:01

dowie said:
How do you know she yelled at him or acted self entitled?

It was reported that she became argumentative, as was her filming which in its own right is a serious offence.

Amnesia · 11 Aug 2018 at 15:08

im on the mouthy womans side, people should be allowed to film any kind of personnel for exactly this purpose.
People tend to act a lot more professional when they know they are being recorded.

Woman held in Dubai with daughter after drinking wine on flight

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