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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

gavinh87 said:
Gibbo has just said they are selling vega at a loss. I'm not sure how they are competing just fine.......
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That has to be some bs, otherwise AMD would have made a big loss recently from the miners causing massive demand on the Vega cards. Instead they did better than expected.

It would make no sense for them to sell at a loss. They maybe subsidising some GPUs sold to board partners here and there, but no way are they selling every Vega GPU at a loss. It would make zero sense and the management would never allow it.
 
jigger said:
Nvidia need to cement themselves a spot in the graphics card market. I've been saying for awhile Nvidia will increasingly move into the higher end a focus less on the sub £200 market as AMD and Intel fight it out.
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Its not like nvidia are choosing to move out of the lower end, its just that AMD cannot keep up! Best let the red boys have the budget end of the market.

Killer7xx said:
That has to be some bs, otherwise AMD would have made a big loss recently from the miners causing massive demand on the Vega cards. Instead they did better than expected.

It would make no sense for them to sell at a loss. They maybe subsidising some GPUs sold to board partners here and there, but no way are they selling every Vega GPU at a loss. It would make zero sense and the management would never allow it.
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Search for his post and take it up with him :p
 
Killer7xx said:
That has to be some bs, otherwise AMD would have made a big loss recently from the miners causing massive demand on the Vega cards. Instead they did better than expected.

It would make no sense for them to sell at a loss. They maybe subsidising some GPUs sold to board partners here and there, but no way are they selling every Vega GPU at a loss. It would make zero sense and the management would never allow it.
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AMD was betting on HBM coming down in price to levels where they could make a profit (think it was like $120 for 8gb of hbm2) It did'nt...
 
gavinh87 said:
Its not like nvidia are choosing to move out of the lower end, its just that AMD cannot keep up! Best let the red boys have the budget end of the market.



Search for his post and take it up with him :p
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No Nvidia won't have chosen to leave that end of the market. They will understand it's a fight they can't win.
 
bigmike20vt said:
Bugger me... If all these leaks are true that are coming out today NV are going in for the kill against AMD. Benchmarks showing the 2060 going head to head against gtx 1080 and that is half the card the 2080ti is. TBH I am smelling fake on some of them.

I am wondering how many who bought that AMD '64 for £450 are considering distance selling regs? I imagine a lot of evga owners will be looking at their calenders for the 90 day countdown on the stepup program!

I have missed the launch period of a new card series. It's v interesting esp when one is in the market to buy a new card :)
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Pump and dump tactics with the 2080Ti being available at launch. They're trying to get as many sold before AMD has the chance to release Navi which will be a game changer in price/perf, due to the advantages 7nm offers.

I think Nvidia will look to release 7nm GPUs not long after AMD releases Navi in 2019, meaning Turing will have a very short lifecycle compared to Maxwell and Pascal. Although it's questionable whether they can put out much volume given AMD will be saturating the 7nm foundries with Zen2, Vega20 and Navi.
 
Frankly I don't really care when they bring on 7nm. The 2080Ti will be a long term card for me - I will be able to play pretty much everything I want at 4k 60fps and my wife will be able to really get some use out of her 1440p 165Hz Predator at very high frame rates (which is going to please her being a Twitch streamer) - I am expecting these GPUs to last at least 3-4 years, I don't expect we will be moving to 8k anytime in the near future. I will get 2x FE 2080Ti then put a block on them as soon as they become available - pretty excited :)
 
Marine-RX179 said:
The situation was pretty much Nvidia telling the AIB partners to sell their cards for cheaper while launching their own FE card high at $699, but most AIB probably thought it made no sense for them to sell their custom cooler cards that are better than FE for less, so they follow suit and more or less priced around the same price range as the FE price range.

The joker 1080 card (the one with literal joke quality of with plastic shroud loud blower cooler with no vapour chamber) was the single lowest priced card that was sold at around £530 at the time, but it was still higher than the $599 MSRP plus VAT at the time as base on the exchange rate at the time it should had been around £480 inc. VAT.

Not sure what the situation was like over at the US, but all I remember was that us UK folks were definitely being shafted.
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How are you getting £480? Are you including the extras like Shipping?

The FE cards were priced from £620-650 so £530 looks about right?
 
Paladine said:
Frankly I don't really care when they bring on 7nm. The 2080Ti will be a long term card for me - I will be able to play pretty much everything I want at 4k 60fps and my wife will be able to really get some use out of her 1440p 165Hz Predator at very high frame rates (which is going to please her being a Twitch streamer) - I am expecting these GPUs to last at least 3-4 years, I don't expect we will be moving to 8k anytime in the near future. I will get 2x FE 2080Ti then put a block on them as soon as they become available - pretty excited :)
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Pretty much. I don't care if the chips are 40nm. How much and how fast? are the big questions.
 
TNA said:
Not surprised one bit. I have mentioned a few times that the Ti might be coming out a lot quicker this time due to 7nm not being that far away. Some just did not want to have it. Not saying for sure it will, but it makes sense if it does...
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It would be really strange if they announce the Ti card at the same time as the other cards. The strategy they have at the moment is perfect because people now buy twice in the same generation and pay over the odds for the x80 card on release.

If true, I wonder what it means? Are you right that 7nm cards are coming early next year? Or has the Ti card become the new top consumer grade card and will be priced like the Titan cards were. With the Titan cards moving into the prosumer market.
 
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