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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread
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With the pound at 1.28!!?? Doubtful, prob closer to £870/880 when all costs are calculated in. Clown card at £850 ftw?
I did the calculation at current rates - also LOL at nearly £900 for a second bin card. Wasn't the first Titan close to the £900 range?
That works out at £420 for the GTX2070 or $100 over the launch price of the GTX970.
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Oh, I wasn't calling out Gibbo at all! Merely pointing out that people saying the 10 series cards would be going down in price are contrary to what the the man who knows best was saying.
Whether they do raise or we see more deals, remains to be seen.
I have no finger nails left - I have had this thread open in my browser for literally months and check it every single day. The tab directly next to this in my browser (also open for months and checked every single day - multiple times) is https://www.nvidia.co.uk/geforce/buy/ (well recently changed from the old product page). I am literally making 1kg of Moose jerky today to give me something other than fingers to chew on.Anyone else insanely excited. I love this time of year with a new GPU release.
Nights get darker and colder and I have even more reason to lock myself in my man cave
I agree 7nm is coming next year, but only with AMD, and considering that for the most part AMD 7nm is comparable with Intel’s 10nm process we may just see some Intel CPU’s if they actually hit their holiday 2019 target.
With GPU’s its very different as the new cards are huge monolithic dies (up to 750mm2) and shrinking these huge dies onto a 7nm process is a herculean task as Intel have shown. The Radeon RTX and GeForce RTX/GTX 20XX cards are on a new process as it is, so its not as if its a Pascal refresh as many have claimed.
With the lack of current competition, unless AMD pull a rabbit out of the hat I think this generation will be around for a couple of years, nVidia will want to see 7nm mature before trying to shrink to a lower die size. Everyone was expecting boost clocks gains for the new cards to be monstrous but in fact with the higher end cards they struggle to beat the older AIB cards.
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I think we'll see Navi in the PS5 guise toward Christmas next year. I reckon a strong E3 revel, with the surprising announcement you'll be able to buy it toward the end of the year (PS5) with consumer cards coming out in early 2020.
AMD calculates TDP based on boost clocks my friend
(Vega is more complicated tech and the minds of Nvidia crowd cannot comprehend the technical stuff) My Nitro+ has to be overclocked to it's limits (close to 1747) on air to hit 345W.
True it doesn't scale linearly, but I can tell you 170-176W the Vega 64 runs at 10-15% over the base clock (~1400 cooler depending), and 80W at close to base clock 1260.
Also 276W power limit (Turbo Mode) is 1630 clock (effective 1570-1600 cooler depending) on Nitro+ and Red Devil.
Factory overclocked GTX1080Ti at 2021ish like the Lightning, Xtreme etc need 330-350W maxed out not 250W.
Because Nvidia like Intel calculates the "official TDP" on base clocks.I had the 1080Ti Xtreme and mine like those on the reviews of those top of the range 1080Tis show the same power draw, 330-350W at factory overclock speed.
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Anyone else insanely excited. I love this time of year with a new GPU release.
Nights get darker and colder and I have even more reason to lock myself in my man cave
Me too - nothing I like more than the spectacle of a GPU release and this ones not let me down
Even more excited as I'm in the market for an upgrade having skipped the last generation (who wants to pay top dollar to refresh every gen?! I don't that's for sure)
Still don't know what it'll be... maybe the Ti if it'll let me skip the next gen. Or if the rumours around 7nm are true maybe I'm bought into on the wrong gen and would be better off going for 2070 to tide me over until the next... which could be even more exciting if AMD make things more competitive! So many possibilities and I've misplaced my crystal ball!
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After two years Nvidia finally beat AMD's other cards. Well played Nvidia better late than never xD
RTX 2080 Ti > GTX 1080 Ti
RTX 2080 > VEGA 64 > GTX 1080
GTX 2070 > VEGA 56 > GTX 1070
GTX 2060 > RX 580 > GTX 1060
GTX 2050 > RX 570 > GTX 1050 Ti
RTX 2080 Ti > GTX 1080 Ti
RTX 2080 > VEGA 64 > GTX 1080
GTX 2070 > VEGA 56 > GTX 1070
GTX 2060 > RX 580 > GTX 1060
GTX 2050 > RX 570 > GTX 1050 Ti
Me too - nothing I like more than the spectacle of a GPU release and this ones not let me down
Even more excited as I'm in the market for an upgrade having skipped the last generation (who wants to pay top dollar to refresh every gen?! I don't that's for sure)
Still don't know what it'll be... maybe the Ti if it'll let me skip the next gen. Or if the rumours around 7nm are true maybe I'm bought into on the wrong gen and would be better off going for 2070 to tide me over until the next... which could be even more exciting if AMD make things more competitive! So many possibilities and I've misplaced my crystal ball!
Me too - although not entirely sure why. Ultimately will be shelling out large amounts of cash to play games at higher FPS with bit more detail!
I'm not calling Gibbo out either. I'm just saying that it's completely natural for someone who has a business interest involved to indicate that - no, I don't think the prices will plummet on the cards I'm trying to sell you now. It would be business suicide to indicate anything otherwise.
No offence, but I just would think that most people would be able to form their own opinion based on the natural reaction of the market (when new cards with more modern technology come out close to previous gen cards price points +$50-$100).
It's happening right before our eyes on the members market with people asking £200-300 less than they were a few months ago for a 1080Ti.
Have you been reading through the threads at all? You've got people saying 'I'm still on socket 775 with 2gb of DDR ram and I'm playing at 720i but NVIDIA TAKE MY MONEY FOR THE 2080TI!!!'
Maybe that's a bit hyperbolic but it's not far off!
There are a several in this discussion here claiming to buy 2080/2080Ti who on the CPU forum saying that 4core CPU is good enough, and their 4770K can cut it....
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Oh, I completely agree with you. Gibbo is a salesman first and foremost but he's usually quite blunt with the forum members and more often than not spares us from the 'used car salesman patter' so I've no reason to disbelieve him if he's saying prices will rise.
I have a feeling that some places they'll go up and some places they'll go down and the percentage of each will be determined by the speed of which the new cards sell out.
*edit* this is all new of course. I have no gauge of the second hand market outside ebay, which isn't a good reflection.
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Yeah, excited but not insanely soAnyone else insanely excited. I love this time of year with a new GPU release.
Nights get darker and colder and I have even more reason to lock myself in my man cave
, and mine is more for the tech really to be honest. I probably won't be rushing out to buy something however but may pick something up later in the year. If I think it may be short lived gen I could well just hold off. Even RT will probably be done better next gen - by the time games arrive that actually use it "properly".AMD calculates TDP based on boost clocks my friend
- that's pretty funny.@Paladine Nice. Stupid question is that actually Moose? Where are you based? Looks some quality lean meat anyway
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There are a several in this discussion here claiming to buy 2080/2080Ti who on the CPU forum saying that 4core CPU is good enough, and their 4770K can cut it....
Well I’ve only got a 4771 but I can’t see that being a problem for me running 4K@60 with a Ti.
Not looking to upgrade CPU for another year or two TBH.
True. We are just months before 7nm (AMD at least is already 5 months in) upgrading to a chip similar to GTX480/8800GTX is kinda daft.
Because the new RTX2080/Ti are just that, the GTX480 and 8800GTX. Huge chip, which will run hot, the last of it's node before the next, very expensive to make and buy, with no direct competitor (so high prices), which will be replaced in 12 months by a far better chip at 7nm. Which will run much cooler and be faster, with direct competitor to keep pricing low.
But short memories in this very forum. People forgot what history taught most of us with the 8800GTX and GTX480. And are repeating the same mistake.
FYI inflation adjusted the 8800GTX cost $1000 in today's money, which was superseded quickly by a better and far cheaper GPU. That is why Nvidia is pushing the Ti also right now. Sell as much as they can get away with and pull a fast one.
No, no, brother disciple, that's not quite right.
nV have been playing catch-up for decades!
HD 7850 > GTX 1080
9700 Pro > GTX 1070
Rage Fury Maxx > GTX 1060
S3 Virge > GTX 1050
AMD-branded mouse mat > GTX 1040
It may yet take nV another thousand years to better AMD's miracles.
All praise! All praise! And lo AMD giveth and AMD rebrandeth, and the people rejoice. Amen.