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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

I could happily play Tomb Raider games at 30 fps in truth. Twitch shooters not so much but G-Sync does a decent job of keeping everything smooth. And if it is too much of a frame hog, I can always turn it off also. Not like it is compulsory ;)
Sounds like your just trying to convince yourself here. You jumped at the pre-order and told. Nvidia you will buy anything they release, at any price, without seeing benchmarks or performance specs. Now pay the consequence. Enjoy your 22fps Ray tracing at over a grand lol.
 
Can honestly say the games they demoed yesterday dont really interest me, however should they lob that fancy RTX stuff into Division 2, or a decent ARPG or MMORPG then im all over it :) however shadows is generally the first thing that gets turned off on most raiding PC's as its notoriously bad for FPS with tons of people on screen at once.

But i play a lot on my Xbox now, and 30fps doesnt bother me at all either. But your also correct, you can switch this stuff off, but would suck to have to do that if you just weighed out £1100+ for a card designed to make use of that stuff, kinda defeats the purpose of the card itself :(
I really do hope UBI jump on this with TD2, as I am a massive TD fan and still play it when I get time. I am not such a BF fan nowadays but might have to get BFV just because it has RT in.
 
Things are starting to come out now. This is what I am seeing around the tinterweb, whether it's true or not I wouldn't like to say xD

People are suggesting Volta was a failure (Poor Volta), design / yields. Absolute mess. Not suitable for gaming / profits..

Nvidia in panic, made Pascal revision* strapped on some ray tracking stuff and charged us almost double the price for the privilege.

Knowing their fan base would lap it up anyway.

Meanwhile trying to tie up journos with very long NDA's, and lock in vendors to restrict advertising of competitors.

Nvidia in absolute panic mode.

This whole guff about 10 years in the making and all the focus on ray tracing is to distract from being not much faster than current Pascal.

At launch, no FPS / game performance mentioned. Just guff about ray tracing. No comparison to existing cards in a traditional sense. For the first time.

Interesting stuff.

Intel plz come and save the DGPU space...
 
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Sounds like your just trying to convince yourself here. You jumped at the pre-order and told. Nvidia you will buy anything they release, at any price, without seeing benchmarks or performance specs. Now pay the consequence. Enjoy your 22fps Ray tracing at over a grand lol.
Thanks and I certainly will enjoy RayTracing. You stick to whining and we will both be happy :D
 
While you are probably right, how can you know the CUDA cores are the same as the ones on Pascal? If the 2080 is to beat the 1080Ti it will need to be a fair bit more efficient per core or a significantly higher clock. Only then would it come close to justifying the price.
Thecuda cores aren't the same, they will have some improvements, but they don't need that many improvements to see the performance difference since the number of cores increased. Similarly the bump in memory bandwidth will help as well.

Don't forget, this is basically 2 (smaller) generations ahead of Pascal, but stuck on a similar process.
 
I really do hope UBI jump on this with TD2, as I am a massive TD fan and still play it when I get time. I am not such a BF fan nowadays but might have to get BFV just because it has RT in.

+1 to this, im all for tech making games look much better, i admire AMD for forward thinking, and have to admire Nvidia for doing the same, my only gripe is with Nvidia you know they will bring this at the detriment of their competitors and even owners of their previous products, atleast with AMD generally they arent trying to force you into spending out on their newest by intentionally gimping you.

I wonder if theres actual room for a dedicated RT GPU to run alongside a dedicated Rasterization gpu, kinda like the old voodoo accelerators etc, an add in board that the machine just offloads the Raytracing stuff too, rather than bundling it onto the same DGPU.. that way you get the best of both worlds, the RT DGPU only fires up when called on etc.
 
I'm beginning to think Vega 64 is the way for me to go... 1080ti pricing still high, 20 series a simple 'Hell no!'.

That or wait until reality bites in a few months and see what happens.
 
Things are starting to come out now. This is what I am seeing around the tinterweb, whether it's true or not I wouldn't like to say xD

People are suggesting Volta was a failure (Poor Volta), design / yields. Absolute mess. Not suitable for gaming / profits..

Nvidia in panic, made Pascal revision* strapped on some ray tracking stuff and charged us almost double the price for the privilege.

Knowing their fan base would lap it up anyway.

Meanwhile trying to tie up journos with very long NDA's, and lock in vendors to restrict advertising of competitors.

Nvidia in absolute panic mode.

This whole guff about 10 years in the making and all the focus on ray tracing is to distract from being not much faster than current Pascal.

At launch, no FPS / game performance mentioned. Just guff about ray tracing. No comparison to existing cards in a traditional sense. For the first time.

Interesting stuff.

Intel plz come and save the DGPU space...

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I'm beginning to think Vega 64 is the way for me to go... 1080ti pricing still high, 20 series a simple 'Hell no!'.

That or wait until reality bites in a few months and see what happens.
Vega on offer at the mo and at a decent price. If you are on the fence, it makes sense to grab a decent GPU for sensible money.
 
Well your simple maths tells me that a 30-40% performance increase isn't worth the 70% price increase.


Probably not, except the 2070 will likely be faster than the 1080ti and cheaper. Nothing like the performance per dollar jump we expected but still an improvement
 
Pre ordering with no actual performance comparison is insanity? And at these prices. Honestly Nvidia are so lucky to have such a devout following that will literally buy anything they make.

The irony is we can never expect competition because of this. Prices will only get worse, odd situation for sure.
 
Pre ordering with no actual performance comparison is insanity? And at these prices. Honestly Nvidia are so lucky to have such a devout following that will literally buy anything they make.

The irony is we can never expect competition because of this. Prices will only get worse, odd situation for sure.

I look forward to seeing a 2xxx GPU in your sig in the near future, you've caved in yourself far too many times for me to believe you won't do it again.
 
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