Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

bru · 16 Sep 2018 at 22:09

LoadsaMoney said:
Yup, can only be reviewed at 4k, its in their reviewers guide.

Was in those benchmarks that VCs posted.

NO
All that it says is.

In GeForce RTX reviewer’s guide, NVIDIA is not using any other resolution than 4K. So all benchmarks (except VRMark Cyan Room) were performed at 3840×2160 resolution. In fact, the RTX 2080 series were ‘designed for 4K’, as the document claims.

This just means that the figures given in the reviewers guide are done at 4k, not that reviewers cannot test at different resolutions.

RavenXXX2 · 16 Sep 2018 at 22:24

spikerules · 16 Sep 2018 at 22:58

Beta Reverse said:
If you only updated your 6600K for playing at 2K, you didn't make a wise choice. You won't appreciate any difference at all in fps.

Again, this is a hobby and it's neat to be on the edge, but there's no need to misinform others.

Who said I’d play at 2k? I’m using it for video editing and 4k.

waspy88 · 16 Sep 2018 at 23:00

Nvidia have cancelled my pre-order.. pretty miffed to be honest!
No reason provided it just says "other"
I'll have to hope the EVGA one I've preordered arrives now..

spikerules · 16 Sep 2018 at 23:18

waspy88 said:
Nvidia have cancelled my pre-order.. pretty miffed to be honest!
No reason provided it just says "other"
I'll have to hope the EVGA one I've preordered arrives now..

Why buy different brand cards anyways? To sell on eBay? No sympathy from me. If it was to cancel one to double your odds for a card on release? Guess what no sympathy from me.

JediFragger · 16 Sep 2018 at 23:22

spikerules said:
Guess what no sympathy from me.

You said that twice. With a card that you know is going to be in short supply then many people order 2 or even 3/4 and just cancel the rest when one of them shows up. It's commonplace.

jjgreenwood · 16 Sep 2018 at 23:30

Given the size of these chips do we think these are going to be hot and loud.

I ordered a ti but am considering changing to a 2080 if it turns out that the big chip is a cooker. Nothing worse than a really hot GPU and I don't want to water cool.

Legend · 16 Sep 2018 at 23:35

jjgreenwood said:
Given the size of these chips do we think these are going to be hot and loud.

I ordered a ti but am considering changing to a 2080 if it turns out that the big chip is a cooker. Nothing worse than a really hot GPU and I don't want to water cool.

But when your whole life flashes before your eyes, how much of it do you want to not have been water cooled?

bru · 17 Sep 2018 at 00:20

Aretak said:
Well, they can't. Eventually. But all of the people who Nvidia have sampled on this launch (and so covering all reviews that'll be available when the embargo expires) have signed an extremely restrictive multi-year NDA that puts them entirely under Nvidia's boot. Even AIBs aren't allowed to sample cards to people who aren't on Nvidia's approved list, so the only way to bypass it will be buying a card along with everybody else. So they'll do what they're told or face the wrath of Nvidia's legal department, one would imagine, given that the NDA is extremely broad and open to interpretation (meaning Nvidia can claim pretty much anything to be in breach of it). The reviews from people who aren't beholden to Nvidia likely won't arrive for at least a few days to a week after launch, depending on how quickly they can conduct their testing.

I take it you really don't like the NVidia NDA and have read it carefully and decided not to sign it, no Free sample for you to test then.

Also for al the NVidia bashers out there, if NVidia will only let reviewers bench in 4 k, how are they going to bench the raytracing effects, cos that only runs well enough to do 1080p.

tommybhoy · 17 Sep 2018 at 02:33

bru said:
Also for al the NVidia bashers out there, if NVidia will only let reviewers bench in 4 k, how are they going to bench the raytracing effects, cos that only runs well enough to do 1080p.

There's no RT titles released to bench yet so-win win for NV as they don't want anyone to know you only get solid RT 60fps@720p

waspy88 · 17 Sep 2018 at 06:11

spikerules said:
Why buy different brand cards anyways? To sell on eBay? No sympathy from me. If it was to cancel one to double your odds for a card on release? Guess what no sympathy from me.

I only ordered from nvidia, now it’s cancelled I’ve ordered via evga.

bigmike20vt · 17 Sep 2018 at 07:21

Now the shock of the prices has waned I am wondering if I should have just bit the bullet
Can still get a vanilla 2080 for the same price as reveal day but the MSI "duke", and Asus/gigabyte 2080ti have both gone up.

spikerules · 17 Sep 2018 at 07:24

JediFragger said:
You said that twice. With a card that you know is going to be in short supply then many people order 2 or even 3/4 and just cancel the rest when one of them shows up. It's commonplace.

No that’s just being ridiculous. It isn’t common place and certainly not on a card this expensive. Just order one, wait and be patient. Otherwise you’re just taking away a preorder from someone else. Plus I said that twice because there were two reasons why I’d have no sympathy.

JediFragger · 17 Sep 2018 at 08:43

spikerules said:
No that’s just being ridiculous. It isn’t common place and certainly not on a card this expensive. Just order one, wait and be patient. Otherwise you’re just taking away a preorder from someone else. Plus I said that twice because there were two reasons why I’d have no sympathy.

We'll agree to disagree

AthlonXP1800 · 17 Sep 2018 at 08:44

NVIDIA GTX 1060 and GTX 1050 Successors in 2019; Turing Originally Intended for 10nm

https://www.techpowerup.com/247657/...s-in-2019-turing-originally-intended-for-10nm

Interesting, Turning was originally intended for Samsung 10nm but the process faced delays just like Intel 10nm so Nvidia had to redesigned Turing for TSMC 12nm FFN, the same process used for Volta.

If Nvidia had no delays with Turing on Samsung 10nm then Turing would had been launched in early 2018 with smaller dies and lower TDP power.

I would be surprise if TSMC 7nm process will face delays too.

opethdisciple · 17 Sep 2018 at 09:07

You gain nothing from pre-ordering. :confused:

Just wait for reviews to come out and then put your money where it most makes sense.

Pre-ordering is essentially gambling when we know nothing yet about performance.

How do you know you need a 2080 vs a 2080ti for example?

You don't untill reviews are out.

Paladine · 17 Sep 2018 at 09:10

opethdisciple said:
You gain nothing from pre-ordering.

Just wait for reviews to come out and then put your money where it most makes sense.

Pre-ordering is essentially gambling when we know nothing yet about performance.

How do you know you need a 2080 vs a 2080ti for example?

You don't untill reviews are out.

What makes you think people purchase luxury items based on need? I pre-ordered 2080Ti because I wanted a 2080Ti and didn't want to get hit by supply delays - I suspect many other people did exactly the same.

beany_bot · 17 Sep 2018 at 09:14

Been away for ages. Are benches out yet? Does the 2070 match the 1080Ti or not?

andybird123 · 17 Sep 2018 at 09:21

opethdisciple said:
You gain nothing from pre-ordering.

Just wait for reviews to come out and then put your money where it most makes sense.

Pre-ordering is essentially gambling when we know nothing yet about performance.

How do you know you need a 2080 vs a 2080ti for example?

You don't untill reviews are out.

You gain a position in the queue and if reviews are where you want them you get your card sooner.

If the reviews are crap or you arent sure you can cancel your order.

Panos · 17 Sep 2018 at 09:21

AthlonXP1800 said:
NVIDIA GTX 1060 and GTX 1050 Successors in 2019; Turing Originally Intended for 10nm

https://www.techpowerup.com/247657/...s-in-2019-turing-originally-intended-for-10nm

Interesting, Turning was originally intended for Samsung 10nm but the process faced delays just like Intel 10nm so Nvidia had to redesigned Turing for TSMC 12nm FFN, the same process used for Volta.

If Nvidia had no delays with Turing on Samsung 10nm then Turing would had been launched in early 2018 with smaller dies and lower TDP power.

I would be surprise if TSMC 7nm process will face delays too.

TSMC 7nm doesn't face delays though.

On the contrary, the process is so good, that AMD is releasing earlier than planned (by 6 months) some of their products. Like the Instinct Vega 20 cards. While EPYC Rome is succesfully been sampled for 4 months now.