NHS Rant

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You aren't making profit from ill health, you're making profit by providing an excellent health service that people want to use, you're so good at that people choose to use your health service over the other options available.

You do realise that most 'private' healththcare relies on the NHS still to perform their operations and surgeries right? All adding privatisation does is extract money from an underfunded system to give to shareholders when it could instead be used to go back in to the system.

Or maybe you'd prefer the US model where millions of people are left without health coverage and so die of minor things like tooth abscesses that spread and then kill people because they couldn't afford to get it checked out?

Lets also not forget that in a private healthcare system patients are 'encouraged' to undergo tests and procedures that they don't even need, just because they're chargeable. Then there's all the kickbacks for hospitals from prescribing drugs from a particular supplier. But yeah, none of that is profiting off ill health...
 
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Me too I’m currently in Hospital in one of the country’s worst rated hospitals and so far I have nothing but praise for the care and way things are run.
Once you are in a hospital, the care is terrific. The problem is the political layer of idiots sitting above the workers who just argue their own agendas with no thought for patients.
Andi.
 
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You aren't making profit from ill health, you're making profit by providing an excellent health service that people want to use, you're so good at that people choose to use your health service over the other options available.

Yeah that’s totally how it works. An MRI costs 4 times as much to the individual/insurer in the US as it does the NHS in the UK because it’s an “excellent MRI” and not that each and every transaction has a butt load of profit creamed off it. The practice of vastly over-investigating even minor complaints is to provide a good service too I’m sure......
 
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Me too I’m currently in Hospital in one of the country’s worst rated hospitals and so far I have nothing but praise for the care and way things are run.
My friends wife nearly died because they diddnt bother checking her blood levels etc after she had a C section giving birth. Which is pretty standard to do after the operation .

She had internal bleeding and was in life support
 
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My friends wife nearly died because they diddnt bother checking her blood levels etc after she had a C section giving birth. Which is pretty standard to do after the operation .

She had internal bleeding and was in life support

That’s really awful. I have had regular tests since arriving even through the night. I suppose each hospital is different even though they should all offer the same level of care.
 
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Once you are in a hospital, the care is terrific. The problem is the political layer of idiots sitting above the workers who just argue their own agendas with no thought for patients.
Andi.

I agree the politics behind the system are horrendous. I think the NHS is fantastic it’s just the Pratt’s that try and run it screw it up.
 
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This isn't "great news", it's common sense, and frankly I'm staggered so many seem to have skipped the part whereby, you pay for something, it happens sooner.

Now, let's move the entire NHS away from a free model, to a pay for model, and see how long it takes before everyone screams that they miss free healthcare. I'm guessing hours, not days.
nhs is only free for those who dont pay tax, everyone else pays
 
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Due to the (ongoing) Privigen treatment I'm having for my neuropathy generally happy with the NHS. Had my second batch of sessions at the local hospital last week. The nurses were generally excellent but on three out of the five days had no admin clerk to run the desk and no healthcare assistant to deal with the minor processes, so they were rushed off their feet.

Also surprises me that a treatment unit dispensing potentially very hazardous medication via intravenous infusion does not have a doctor in residence, the senior medical professional being a staff nurse.

I also had my confidence a little shattered after requesting some anti nausea meds on the third day and these being authorised/prescribed by my consultant, to have them fail to turn up at all. Not sure where the system fell down - luckily I had some old migraine tablets with anit nausea element in the medicine cabinet at home, but should not really be having to self medicate for a side effect of treatment under the hospital (especially with a potentially nasty IVIG product).
 
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My daughter was born with duplex kidneys which not all that uncommon; however, she had the worst form of it possible. Of the four kidney's she effectively had, only one was working, another running at 10%, and the two others completely dead. She also had duplicated ureter's. What was the result? Within a week of being born she had her first bout of sepsis, which I probably don't have to state is about as serious as it gets for anyone, let alone a newborn.

Over the following year she wasn't at home for more than a few weeks, and was constantly getting life-threatening UTI's and sepsis. Her second year was marginally better - she underwent major surgery to remove the two dead parts of each kidney, totalling around 20 hours of major surgery over two instances. She had to put up with armies of nurses forcefully pinning her down every couple of hours, day in and day out, for all the various tests that needed to be done (she now struggles to be in a room with anyone in a doctor or nurses outfit). She's been in ICU. She's still on 5 different medications three times a day... some of those only normally prescribed to adults.

She's now three years old and hasn't had a UTI that we have detected in bang on a year. She is still under the care of several different specialists at two different hospitals, and has regular appointments to check progress. We also have direct access to the wards on one of the hospitals - there is no waiting around a local GP for a cold... straight into hospital and onto heavy duty antibiotics (many UTI's have similar symptoms to the common cold).

Whilst it may feel shambolic at times, the doctors and nurses in it have kept my daughter alive. No ifs, no buts... she would not be here. No amount of taxes I ever pay that go towards the upkeep of the NHS will ever come close to repaying what those wonderful folk have done.

Having been part of something like this, it has also given an insight into how overworked and understaffed the front line is. Nurse salaries should be doubled on the spot - it's a criminally underpaid sector. The doctors live and breathe their work. On more than one occasion our daughters surgeon travelled back to hospital in his own time, once at 11pm at night specifically to check in on my daughter. On the occasion where he did turn up late one night, he looked utterly destroyed and genuinely as upset/ concerned as we were.

If we were living in America, my daughter would be dead. It's that simple. Some of the regular procedures and tests she has had/needs would cost tens of thousands outside of the NHS. She's almost certainly had something in the region of £500k - 1m in care so far. The NHS is doing the best it can with the painfully inadequate resources successive governments have given it. It is literally performing miracles on a daily basis.

Love reading posts like this, thanks. I'm an NHS Nurse and get tired of hearing people complain about the NHS. No, it's not perfect but most of us really love our jobs and do the best we can.
 
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Love reading posts like this, thanks. I'm an NHS Nurse and get tired of hearing people complain about the NHS. No, it's not perfect but most of us really love our jobs and do the best we can.
Some if not most of the complaints are valid and not all who work there are good/care about there job just like any other job except someone life is on the line here ..
 
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NHS 'ripped off' by drug companies charging £1000 for mouthwash, MP claims
https://talkradio.co.uk/news/nhs-ri...arging-ps1000-mouthwash-mp-claims-18102328464

The National Health Service is being “ripped off” by pharmaceutical companies charging more than £1,000 for a bottle of pain-relieving mouthwash, ministers have been told.

The SNP MP Philippa Whitford urged the Government to stop the “drug racketeering”.

The SNP’s health spokeswoman said: "NHS England is being ripped off to the tune of £230 million a year as the price of some off-patent drugs and non-standard preparations or specials have been hiked up hundreds of times.

"An example is over £1,000 for a bottle of pain-relieving mouthwash.

"In Scotland, specials remain in house to keep the price down, but, a year and a half on from the Health Service Medical Supplies Act, why has the Government not used the powers to stop this drug racketeering?"
 
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At least we won’t have to stockpile medications in case of shortages due to potential changes in the way we trade with some of the largest medication suppliers to the NHS... oh wait...
Meanwhile, ripping off the NHS and thus the taxpayer is absolutely fine - because that is the Capitalist (Tory) way?
 
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Hate to say it but basically the money isn't there. Sure, the NHS has had increases in funding from central government but it's nowhere near enough to keep up with demand. Advances in healthcare sciences, increased mortality rates and the percentage of population at retirement age are the main reasons for this problem. Visit any hospital and take note of the average age of in-patients. Most are of the retired baby-boomber generation.

I would not complain if the government put a small increase in National Insurance contributions nationwide to finance more NHS funding. It's the only way if we want to maintain decent health service IMO.
 
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EXACTLY and not just a 1 meg jpg.
I picked another patients PACS Images up yesterday on 2 DVDs.
We are in talks now about how we can get patients records to 3rd parties uploading to a cloud and the size of Xrays is the stumbling block.

Out of interest how big are x-ray images in terms of resolution, bit depth and file size?
 
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