The NHS is wonderful, but sometimes it really disappoints...

Well that's the price we pay for socialised health care, you can't force people on to social health care (the NHS) then deprive them of it when they get thrown in jail. So you either classify gender dysphoria as an illness and treat it, or you don't, but the same has to apply to everyone. Personally I'm not sold on the idea that surgery is the go to treatment for gender dysphoria, but it's too politicised at this point.

Fair point, it seems that surgery/mutilating the genitals to make them vaguely look like that of the opposite sex is the accepted thing to do these days, though I wonder if that will be changed/updated in future as it is still controversial and AFAIK there are concerns about increased suicide risk (which is already high to begin with for trans people ). In fact for that reason there is a chance this could sadly and unintentionally save taxpayers money as it costs 45k a year to keep him in jail and the average life sentence is 15 years, not that we should be actively encouraging our prison population to top themselves!
 
The NHS are not telling Bob to sell his house, the local authority are. In our rather odd post-retirement healthcare system, the Local authority, not the NHS, are responsible for providing his care needs, notably if they’re mental illnesses or just old age.
 
Probably better off blowing the lot when you're younger and let the state take care of you at the end.
 
In fairness sometimes, like earlier today, I feel like the creator of Logan's Run had the right idea when it comes to older generation.

Yes its a harsh view.
Ouch. Nasty.

On the flip side we won't allow assisted suicide despite being perfectly happy to put down animals who are clearly suffering with no quality of life. The mind boggles.
 
Ouch. Nasty.

On the flip side we won't allow assisted suicide despite being perfectly happy to put down animals who are clearly suffering with no quality of life. The mind boggles.

Maybe so but you'd probably understand if a group of around 12 60+ harridans with the "I'm old so you should respect me" attitude in a cafe were complaining to the owner because my 2 Yr old was asking me questions (learning). She wasn't being loud, just repetitive, as kids are at her age.
This on top of an elderly man moaning at me saying I shouldn't park in the last parent & toddler bay because he had a blue badge and wanted the space.
 
Maybe so but you'd probably understand if a group of around 12 60+ harridans with the "I'm old so you should respect me" attitude in a cafe were complaining to the owner because my 2 Yr old was asking me questions (learning). She wasn't being loud, just repetitive, as kids are at her age.
This on top of an elderly man moaning at me saying I shouldn't park in the last parent & toddler bay because he had a blue badge and wanted the space.

It amazes me how selfish some people can be.
 
Maybe so but you'd probably understand if a group of around 12 60+ harridans with the "I'm old so you should respect me" attitude in a cafe were complaining to the owner because my 2 Yr old was asking me questions (learning). She wasn't being loud, just repetitive, as kids are at her age.
This on top of an elderly man moaning at me saying I shouldn't park in the last parent & toddler bay because he had a blue badge and wanted the space.

Please don’t teach your child these thoughts.

You are scaring me and I am pretty open minded.
 
The NHS are not telling Bob to sell his house, the local authority are. In our rather odd post-retirement healthcare system, the Local authority, not the NHS, are responsible for providing his care needs, notably if they’re mental illnesses or just old age.

Social care is also distinctly different from health care. So again not sure what the NHS has got to do with this.

Social care, i.e. looking after someone is funded by you if if you can afford it or your family looks after you. Presumably if his children want to inherit his house, they should be looking after him. Not tax payers.
 
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Social care is also distinctly different from health care. So again not sure what the NHS has got to do with this.

Aren't we supposed to be moving to a joined up system since health and social care are inextricably linked, treating them separately hasn't worked as the underfunding of social care through the LA has just led to the extra strain on the healthcare system. If we integrated the two aspects and funded them centrally, we could make both systems more efficient.
 
Aren't we supposed to be moving to a joined up system since health and social care are inextricably linked, treating them separately hasn't worked as the underfunding of social care through the LA has just led to the extra strain on the healthcare system. If we integrated the two aspects and funded them centrally, we could make both systems more efficient.

Adult social care only recently became entirelu LAs responsibility which they have to increasingly fund themselves through council tax.

Adult social care is also very broad. I disagree that looking after someone because they are old or young should be centrally funded. It is the responsibility of parents (except where they are not fit to look after children) or in the case of adults, them if they can afford it.

Adult social care is a massive predictable cost and making people who could never afford £300k houses to pay for the social care of someone who has that is injustuce. Heallthcare is a different matter because it is collective insurance against something that isn't predictable and the costs of which escalate very quickly.

Who knows, paybe like pensions and the NHS we should double national insurance and force people to save up through the state for adult social care.
 
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I dont see why people should'nt sell homes to fund their care home needs later on in life. I'm not paying 4 figures of tax a month to help ensure he has an inheritance to pass onto his children. I care for the elderly daily to the best of my ability, but they have paid far less into the system than they will take. 30 years ago they never would have dreamed we would drop £20k on a new Heart valve (TAVI) on an 80 year old who 10 years ago would have just died. The things we do now which keeps them alive is exceptional but very expensive.
 
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