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Because you will get derps sending twitter messages to sky f1, asking why the soft from last weekend, does something entirely different to the soft at the current race. Watch it will happen :)
 
vanpeebles said:
Because you will get derps sending twitter messages to sky f1, asking why the soft from last weekend, does something entirely different to the soft at the current race. Watch it will happen :)
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A soft tyre this year will perform completely different at Barcelona than say Monaco.
 
vanpeebles said:
Because you will get derps sending twitter messages to sky f1, asking why the soft from last weekend, does something entirely different to the soft at the current race. Watch it will happen :)
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No you won't. People who care about that will know why. People who don't know won't care. The old system confused the casual viewer who just wanted to watch the races, the race geeks knew the difference. Now you will have a system where the casual viewer isn't confused, and the race geeks still know the difference.
 
This is probably the simplest way to explain it, although it does mean they've removed the tyre used most often...

For 2019 Pirelli has set out to improve the performance of the higher compounds, which were often considered too conservative, and to widen the performance gaps at the softer end of the range.

The naming convention for the tyres will also change. The three compounds chosen for each race will always be referred to as hard, medium and soft. But the full range of compounds, which will reduce from seven to either five or six, will be referred to by number. ‘One’ will refer to the hardest compound’.

“The compounds we are developing for next year have already a slightly bigger delta [performance gap] compared to this year,” said Pirelli motorsport director Mario Isola. The soft tyre, now known as ‘three’, is unchanged.

“The hard and the medium performance is a bit better [than in 2018]. They are a bit closer to the soft because this year nobody was going to use the hard because they believed the hard is not at the right level of performance. So we decided to move the medium a bit closer to the soft and the hard is a bit closer to the medium.”

The super-soft – which was nominated for 16 of the 21 races this year, the most of any compound along with the soft – has been deleted and does not have an equivalent in the new range. This means there is a bigger gap in performance between tyres ‘three’ and ‘four’
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Which (other than the removal of the super-soft compound) makes complete sense:

Casual viewers will always know that hard=slow and durable, soft=fast but doesn't last, with medium somewhere between. During pitstops the commentators will say that "Hamilton has changed from Soft tyres to Hard tyres", rather than the potentially confusing from "Hyper-soft to Super-soft"

Technical fans will still know that at Monaco, compounds 4,5,6 were selected, and at Suzuki 2,3,4 (For example)
 
Kevin Clark said:
They won't need to.
The point is there will be only 3 compounds all season at all the races, hard, medium and soft. The actual chemical make up of the tyres will vary depending on the track but the viewers will only see the same 3 tyre colours each time. That's much simpler for people to understand.
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But crofty will at every opportunity he can.

Trying to explain the F1 tires over the last 3 seasons to a person who saw the last few races, is like trying to explain cricket!
 
The old naming of tyres was stupid, with ultra- vs. hyper- soft being the worst offender. I welcome the clearer new system. The differences between compounds taken to particular circuits is a technical detail that doesn't need to be front and centre all the time.
 
Time stamp 1:39:25 for those of us who don't fancy sitting through nearly three hours of CorporateSpeak™.
 
Oh, and if you want even more time saved - yes, the graphics are still crap. Now just more numerous. Presumably to distract the viewers so they won't notice how none of the major, fundamental problems the sport has are being fixed...
 
There's some interesting and highly significant changes detailed in there, not least the race and grid formats. The extra data is great, but turning that into overtaking probability? Not for me, thank you. Pitstop advantage and things like that - sure, it adds to it. Let's not create something new to hang the drivers by - we can all tell if there's a good overtaking chance or if someone's putting it up the inside like hero.

The biggest concern I have with this data and the use of it to create probability scenarios such as this is F1's recent deal to bring live sports betting into the sport. They will be using this information to set odds in real time. Sports betting is an absolutely blight to people, a danger that far outweighs the revenue benefits to the sport. And moves like this expose it to children and normalise it.
 
MissChief said:
And yet some still say it doesn't do anything and want it's removal. The mind truly boggles.
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We-e-e-ell...

Playing devil's advocate for a second - the investigation did find that the wheel wasn't going to hit Leclerc's head, and they can't say how bad the hit on his visor from the front wing actually would have been (could have caught it heavily and shattered it, could have brushed by and scratched it, we'll never know). And as CaptainRAVE points out - Hulkenberg was stuck in his car for three minutes while the marshals got it back the right way up, a car that was on fire for a little while during the incident, and I'm sure we can all agree that that's not a good thing.
 
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