******Official Star Citizen / Squadron 42 Thread******

Well it certainly looks fantastic, but it wants to launch with everything at once. That's what I meant by the feature creep. If you keep adding and redoing things its not going to be completed.
 
So I can safely say that, since I got a refund at the beginning of this year and hadn't played it until the recent free fly event, that the game has come on hugely. Sure its not complete, sure its buggy at times and things don't quite work as well as you'd hope, but the base is there. I've had fun dogfighting, mining, hauling stuff and doing missions. The tech is impressive and the whole 'seamless' ship to shore style is good. All the elements exist they just need to be tightened up and content added... FPS is certainly better than earlier this year!
 
SS-89 said:
Can I ask a genuine question? Why does it bother you so much? You have readily admitted you are standing by and waiting which is fine, the backers are the reason that this game is even being developed and they are the ones who are bearing the risk so I am curious as to what you are getting out of it at this point by pointing out what many people are already aware of. It's like you and a few others in this thread have taken it as a personal affront that people have chosen to spend their money as they wish.

Just to clarify I don't disagree with anything you are saying, in fact as someone who is heavily invested in the development (as others here know well) I have grown increasingly jaded with Chris Roberts and the development process but I've just become indifferent to the whole thing. Do I think it will be as grand in scale as he has promised? Definitely not. Do I think even in half its promised state it would still be up there as one of the most in-depth/engaging space sims released? Potentially but again no guarantees. I have contemplated pushing for a refund a few times but decided against it as ultimately I backed it in good faith, I had my eyes wide open when I pledged (so your assumption that people are blindly pledging is a massive generalisation, though the bulk of my funding came in 2013/2014) and subsequently any 'loss' is on me as nobody put a gun to my head.

I do get the impression that some people just want to see it fail simply so they can say 'look I told you so, you're an idiot for ever putting your money in'. I'm not suggesting you are one of those individuals but you don't have to look far to find them. My response to them, as I outlined above is...if it fails it fails, so be it won't be the first or last time I lose money on something, thankfully I backed well within my means (never put in more than you are willing to lose and all that) and the individuals who stretched themselves to back the game are foolish. For me at least, if it ends up delivering I will be more than happy that I helped in some small part for that to be achieved.
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SS-89 said:
Firstly why does it matter what people have backed, high or low? You seem to suggest I haven't backed much and therefore it doesn't matter to me. I didn't disclose how much I have backed so I'm not sure how you reached that conclusion, what I did say is I didn't stretch myself in doing so, as I said before I am 'heavily' invested in the game. You are still working on the assumption that people are backing without any realisation of the risk involved which as I said is a gross generalisation. Also people are grown adults and don't need to be white knighted, they backed a game on the vision of the development team, if they weren't comfortable with that position then don't back (and many including yourself have taken that exact stance).

Like I said earlier I don't disagree with some of the negatives highlighted previously but a lot of this seems to be treading a well-trodden path and doesn't really add anything new to the discussion. As Magnolia alluded to earlier there seems to be the vocal contingent on each end of the spectrum (i.e. ardent supporters and the 'it's a scam' bandwagon) and very little in-between, makes it hard to have an informed or balanced discussion about it.

I think your concern about the gaming industry and the move towards early access etc. games is a valid one but I think a little out of context when talking about SC. It's a completely different animal and one we are unlikely to ever see repeated, a crowd-funded game to the tune of nearly $200m? I can honestly say I believe this a one-time only event.



Quite...it's why I rarely bother visiting this thread.
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I'll quote two previous posts I've made in this thread on this very discussion, it seems like the same individuals labouring the same points.
 
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