Are students upset by everything?

Housey said:
There is an elevation in butt hurt due to the whole social media ‘me too’ world we life in, but there have always been sections of society who are offended that you are not offended. Our modern mediums just means they have a louder voice and wider reach....and are really easy to use and manipulate..
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In addition to an increasing tendency to take offence (and increasingly on behalf of someone else), there's also the increasing ability to punish those you are offended by. One person in a crowd disliking a joke before Social Media was one person. Maybe they'd write a letter about how disgusted they were in extreme circumstances. Today with a few clicks, you have ready made hate-mobs filled with people who weren't even there ready to pile on and demand apologies or face years of public abuse. In fact, these baying hate mobs are WAITING for something to be provided they can go chasing after. Like a pack of dogs hoping a rabbit will appear.

If you don't like something, an army is just a click away.

Housey said:
Most students are angry idealists who think they have all the answers and know better than everyone else and 1 or 2 do and they will become the future innovators, but 99% don't and will just become one of the rest. It's been like that for as long as I can remember. My generation were just the same in the 70's and 80's as were my dads generation and probably his dads too and I know every generation since has been the same. It is part of growing up, getting out from school and into the world. It starts earlier these days perhaps, but nothing new really though this generation has taken it to a new level of angst because they now have a voice we never had, this one we are all on right now.
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Housey said:
The vast majority grow up in the end, some in their 20's, some in their 30's some even into their 40's but eventually life catches up with most and they realise that those idealistic minds are only good if everyone thinks the same, lives the same and does that same, but they don't and they never ever will. This forum shows that, but still they go on thinking that they will make a difference. All power to them too, society needs to be challenged but fact is for over 100 years most have grown up to realise they were naive.

Be nice if one day the world really did change to a a world of love, but money and ambitions that vary simply won't ever allow that. Peace, one love is such nice ambition, I was born because of it, or maybe into the run in to it (Summer of love me) but life is rarely perfect or fair. Those who don't believe that are still on the journey, they rarely know better, they just think they do with the passion of youth and good on em. It is likely that one or two of the younger members of this forum will be names we all get to know for great and good things...one or two for the other. Tis life.
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There's a line in Noel Coward's This Happy Breed by the father to his son which increasingly resonates with me: "The problem with your ideas isn't that they're wrong. It's that you think they're new." I get what he's saying a little more every year.
 
Roland Butter said:
Don't get it, explain it.
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h4rm0ny said:
There's a line in Noel Coward's This Happy Breed by the father to his son which increasingly resonates with me: "The problem with your ideas isn't that they're wrong. It's that you think they're new." I get what he's saying a little more every year.
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It is new to people who are living it for the first time, not to people who have been there many times before and are perhaps able to measure it better. There is very little that is new, people just need time to realise that and that comes from living, not from reading about others on the internet and thinking you know about it. You go from school to freedom and all of sudden the world becomes a thing and minds work overtime. That is what being young is all about, having a voice but social gives people a voice at 10 years old. Problem is most people face to face still see them as a 10 year old and that learning takes times to realise, even at 26 years of age. Confidence is a good thing, but your confidence means little to others in reality, it's just you learning life. Great time however.
 
About as much as all the grumpy middle aged men on here. Every time there's an article about students getting upset by something there's a thread about it in here :D
 
Housey said:
It is new to people who are living it for the first time, not to people who have been there many times before and are perhaps able to measure it better. There is very little that is new, people just need time to realise that and that comes from living, not from reading about others on the internet and thinking you know about it. You go from school to freedom and all of sudden the world becomes a thing and minds work overtime. That is what being young is all about, having a voice but social gives people a voice at 10 years old. Problem is most people face to face still see them as a 10 year old and that learning takes times to realise, even at 26 years of age. Confidence is a good thing, but your confidence means little to others in reality, it's just you learning life. Great time however.
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I agree. But that's the point of the line - not that the goals are wrong or that trying to make the world a better place isn't laudable. But that thinking you're the first to try and not understanding the pattern is dangerous. One day you're marching for the Glory of the Revolution. The next, there are gulags. It's not that the ideas are wrong, it's that people think they're new.
 
h4rm0ny said:
I agree. But that's the point of the line - not that the goals are wrong or that trying to make the world a better place isn't laudable. But that thinking you're the first to try and not understanding the pattern is dangerous. One day you're marching for the Glory of the Revolution. The next, there are gulags. It's not that the ideas are wrong, it's that people think they're new.
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As you say it is rarely about right and wrong, it's about achievable and fantasy, that is the difference. In your youth and younger adult years you tend to be more black and white in your views, but with age comes not wisdom perhaps, but an appreciation that dreams are dreams for a reason. People will let you down more than surprise you and people who you think are with you today, who share your values, will change. That is why 'we are all together on this' changes with age because, well, time is not the same when a family, bills, work and other stuff starts to take priority.

"Yea mate, I want to change the world, but I've got to work shifts this week".

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It'll be interesting when more and more of the students with these ideals (which isn't all of them by a long shot) hit the job market and the vast majority find that their very expensive degree won't get them any work in the very tiny sector they want.

It must be hard for that vast majority to suddenly realise that their University, which nowadays is ONLY interested in keeping the money flowing from students into their own accounts, has utterly failed to adequately prepare them for life where companies value performance over "wokeness".
 
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