Customer loyalty, does it matter.....

Doubletrouble · 17 Jan 2019 at 16:30

I keep reverting back to the 2080 card as I have seen them for around

Psycho Sonny said:
you need to seriously sort yourself out. 1

you don't have a job yet are looking at £700 second hand GPU's? 2

also they are a business and there is a shortage of GPU's so you should really do some research before spouting drivel which 95+% of your post was. i don't think i have ever asked for a discount anywhere just because i have shopped there before. to even ask would be quite frankly embarrassing. i would only ask for a discount if the product was damaged (scratches, etc) or ex-display on clearance 3

you dont have a job. you shouldn't be building any PC period unless you need it to fill in job applications. 4

So 1 I know this and have outbursts of anger sometimes.
So 2 I offered less and I have saved and calculated my bills and we manage them with a little help, I saved the money for the GPU not to pay bills, there are many unemployed people wasting tax payers money, I am unfortunately out of a job due to another story that makes me shout screw the government and all the incompetant people that run it.
So 3 I agree with that, I had an outbreak of madness.
So 4 Look at it this way, do people have to have a job to have a good GPU? is this a legal requirement? what difference does it make. People are always in and out of work, I want a GPU and a good one with the last cash I have, I will get another job, I have options.

Doubletrouble · 17 Jan 2019 at 16:31

Psycho Sonny said:
get a second hand 1060 6Gb for £120

Is the vega 64s not better than a 1060?

Doubletrouble · 17 Jan 2019 at 16:32

randomshenans said:
Thread is funny, I like.

That is because I made it.

Funky-Melon · 17 Jan 2019 at 16:35

Doubletrouble said:
Is the vega 64s not better than a 1060?

It is, but no offence, you currently don't have a job. Unless you're loaded, a graphics card should be low on your priorities a the moment/not even on the list.

A 1060 will do the job fine. If you want to spend more, a VEGA 64, GTX 1070, GTX 2070 or essentially, anything you want, will be better.

Psycho Sonny · 17 Jan 2019 at 16:38

Doubletrouble said:
Is the vega 64s not better than a 1060?

Depends on how you view better.

1060 is cheaper it's also far more energy efficient which if your kids are going to be streaming 12 hours a day you want to be keeping the electricity bills down.

So no Vega is not better if you look at it from that view.

Hades · 17 Jan 2019 at 16:48

Doubletrouble said:
Is the vega 64s not better than a 1060?

Vega 64 is faster than a 1060 but more expensive and uses more power.

1060 is cheaper and more energy efficient but not as fast as a Vega 64.

Doubletrouble · 17 Jan 2019 at 16:58

Psycho Sonny said:
Depends on how you view better.

1060 is cheaper it's also far more energy efficient which if your kids are going to be streaming 12 hours a day you want to be keeping the electricity bills down.

So no Vega is not better if you look at it from that view.

GPUs like 1080ti, 2080, 2080ti are manily for 4k gaming? so would not be the best option on a normal monitor, this is what I think I have undertsood, that is if I am right.

So it would be pointless spending more than £500 on a GPU at this stage, especially seen as a vega 64 at 400 is more than adequate for most games on a normal monitor, I did also look at the 2070 as that is in my budget for a card, would a 2070 be better than a vega 64?.

Doubletrouble · 17 Jan 2019 at 16:59

Hades said:
Vega 64 is faster than a 1060 but more expensive and uses more power.

1060 is cheaper and more energy efficient but not as fast as a Vega 64.

I looked at a 2070 as that is not much difference to a vega 64, and is the 2070 faster than the vega 64 and more energy effecient?

Psycho Sonny · 17 Jan 2019 at 17:00

Doubletrouble said:
GPUs like 1080ti, 2080, 2080ti are manily for 4k gaming? so would not be the best option on a normal monitor, this is what I think I have undertsood, that is if I am right.

So it would be pointless spending more than £500 on a GPU at this stage, especially seen as a vega 64 at 400 is more than adequate for most games on a normal monitor, I did also look at the 2070 as that is in my budget for a card, would a 2070 be better than a vega 64?.

what resolution is your monitor?

if it's 1080p then get a 1060 6gb like i have already said.

if it's 1440p then get a 2060.

you do not need a 2070 it's the same performance as a 1080 which is overkill

Doubletrouble · 17 Jan 2019 at 17:07

32IN AOC Q3279VWF QHD MONITOR, This is my monitor and its freesync and from the little I just read, certain amd cards are good for this monitor, so maybe a vega64 is a good choice? I better find out what freesync and gsync is all about.

Hades · 17 Jan 2019 at 17:13

Doubletrouble said:
I looked at a 2070 as that is not much difference to a vega 64, and is the 2070 faster than the vega 64 and more energy effecient?

I am not an expert on the 2070 but I believe what you say is true. The 2070 should be faster and more power efficient than the Vega 64.

Doubletrouble · 17 Jan 2019 at 17:14

Hades said:
I am not an expert on the 2070 but I believe what you say is true. The 2070 should be faster and more power efficient than the Vega 64.

I am not even a true beginner yet, but I am thinking that a 2070 would be more than enough for gaming purposes as my monitor is not 4k, if that is right then I could very well have made my mind up on the card I will be buying next.

Hades · 17 Jan 2019 at 17:27

Doubletrouble said:
I am not even a true beginner yet, but I am thinking that a 2070 would be more than enough for gaming purposes as my monitor is not 4k, if that is right then I could very well have made my mind up on the card I will be buying next.

I would say its a good choice. But lets wait for a few more opinions too

koolpc · 17 Jan 2019 at 17:27

Rroff said:
Money tight but looking at spending £500 on GPU alone? doesn't compute.

Agree

Doubletrouble · 17 Jan 2019 at 17:34

koolpc said:
Agree

And we have established this, but maybe I should have worded it differently, my predicament is circumstancial, it is not the be all and end all.

McPhee · 17 Jan 2019 at 19:22

1440p Freesync monitor?

Buy an RX580, Vega 56, or Vega 64.

Doubletrouble · 17 Jan 2019 at 19:36

satchef1 said:
1440p Freesync monitor?

Buy an RX580, Vega 56, or Vega 64.

I am leaning towards a vega64 and using the rest of my budget to also go AMD ryzen 7, and go ddr4, not sure how much faster it will be compared to my old quad core i7 4970k, but on the benchmarks I have seen, it is 27th compared to the intel cpu at 55th place.

Funky-Melon · 17 Jan 2019 at 20:37

Doubletrouble said:
I am leaning towards a vega64 and using the rest of my budget to also go AMD ryzen 7, and go ddr4, not sure how much faster it will be compared to my old quad core i7 4970k, but on the benchmarks I have seen, it is 27th compared to the intel cpu at 55th place.

For games and at 1080p you won't see a massive difference.

Angilion · 17 Jan 2019 at 21:42

Doubletrouble said:
I am thinking that that might be for the best, not beating them up though but not being youtubers, although some youtubers are completely strange and just sit talking about the games they are playing and make millions for what seems to be doing nothing that others cant do.

Some make good educational and/or entertaining content. There are some making a living from channels about DIY, car maintainence and modification, history, singing, etc, etc. In one relatively famous example, recreating stone age manufacturing. No joke - he goes into the countryside with just a pair of shorts and makes tools, pottery items, buildings, grows food, processes and cooks it...everything purely stone age, made only from things he can walk to, pick up and carry to his home site. He never talks, either. The channel is called Primitive Technology. I recommend it.

It's definitely a particular skill to present something to an audience, even if it's something others can do. Even if it's something others do do.

Doubletrouble said:
I know right, like nobody can lose their job and have £500 its impossible, I am the luckiest man alive yet can only afford a GPU for my machine that is 5 years old. Although to some of you this may seem a joke it aint trust me, it took me a while to save this.

Many people who do work can't afford a £500 graphics card. I'm at work ~55 hours/week and it took me a while to save for my new card, which cost £420. The card it replaced was about 5 years old.

The issue isn't so much the money as the choice of how to spend it. Having £500 is quite different to having £500 completely spare to spend on a toy.

Doubletrouble said:
32IN AOC Q3279VWF QHD MONITOR, This is my monitor and its freesync and from the little I just read, certain amd cards are good for this monitor, so maybe a vega64 is a good choice? I better find out what freesync and gsync is all about.

Freesync and gsync match the refresh rate of the monitor to the output of the graphics card (within a range), which results in smoother movement. It's certainly an improvement in games, especially if the framerate is below the maximum refresh rate of the monitor. Freesync is AMD only, gsync is nivida only. Gsync is better, but far more expensive. Since you already have a good monitor with freesync, I'd suggest looking at an AMD card. With that monitor, an AMD card would be a bit better for gaming than a comparable nvidia card because the AMD card will use freesync and the nvidia card won't.

Doubletrouble said:
I am leaning towards a vega64 and using the rest of my budget to also go AMD ryzen 7, and go ddr4, not sure how much faster it will be compared to my old quad core i7 4970k, but on the benchmarks I have seen, it is 27th compared to the intel cpu at 55th place.

Not faster enough to warrant spending money on it. It will be a fair bit faster if you're running stuff that places a heavy load on the CPU and memory, but you aren't so it's a waste of money. Your current hardware is fine for gaming at 1440, apart from the graphics card. I have an i7 4970K and 16GB of DDR3-2400 and I game at 1440p. CPU and memory are not a bottleneck.

You might want to check your PSU, since the Vega 64 is quite power-hungry. It'll probably be OK, but I would check if it was my PC.

Jean-F · 17 Jan 2019 at 22:21

Psycho Sonny said:
his whole business model is likely based on loyalty as he is likely a 1 man band. would you get that same treatment in ASDA? they would say sorry it's not in stock come back tomorrow or try one of our other stores or order online.

different business's have different approaches. the type of business OP is talking about doesn't operate anything like your examples model. it doesn't need word of mouth or good customer service to sell stuff.

On the contrary P.S., the dealer in L.A. was a king size place, auto sales, after sales servicing, large parts department.
The clerk was one of many behind the counter, definitely not a one man band.
We were frankly amazed at him turning up with the set of trims, we couldn’t see what incentive he had to do that.
It was patently obvious that we were foreign visitors to L.A., what were the chances that either of us would ever come back to California to buy auto parts?
I take your point about ASDA though, or any firm in U.K., the best you could hope for is, “we can order it for you.”
But as you say, an auto dealership in the U.S. is a world apart from what the OP is talking about.