Should a 97 year old man be driving on a public road?

Anybody who can't apologise for making a mistake--if they have made a mistake shouldn't be on the road. It doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with your age.
 
I'd be interested if stockhausen would cite the people he DOES approve of. The wealthy, the Conservative, the elderly, those with national pride, those that favour leaving the EU, those that voted in President Trump, those that oppose unfettered immigration, those that flirt with women, they all seem to come on his radar as undesirables ;) His drinking chum list must be pretty small....And I would hasten to add probably a nightmare to be with :) A night out with Bernard Manning would have done him a power of good!
 
ethan said:
Anybody who can't apologise for making a mistake--if they have made a mistake shouldn't be on the road. It doesn't necessarily have to have anything to do with your age.
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We live in such litigious times anyone who makes a move to apologise prior to legal proceedings leave themselves open to misinterpretation. Legal counsel would almost certainly advise against doing so. The obese lady who suffered seemingly escalating distress and injury would definitely seem the type where keeping one's gob shut might be deemed a wise course of action ;)
 
stockhausen said:
I wonder how many accidents old men have caused by coasting up to roundabouts and generally crawling along with a tailback behind them?
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Whilst you see them as a cause, the courts would see those whose impatience leads them into rash and ill judged manoeuvres to overtake slow moving vehicles as liable. Patience is a virtue :) Are you as damning of elderly members of your own family as you are of "old men" in general? I would be wary of them visiting a solicitor for will advice ;)
 
It *IS* national pride, not "or something". If one hates the country as much as you appear to why torture yourself being a citizen of it? Make the most of the limited time true freedom of movement within the EU offers you ;) But I'd avoid Austria, Poland or Hungary if national pride causes you to gag...
 
Chris Wilson said:
Whilst you see them as a cause, the courts would see those whose impatience leads them into rash and ill judged manoeuvres to overtake slow moving vehicles as liable. Patience is a virtue :) Are you as damning of elderly members of your own family as you are of "old men" in general? I would be wary of them visiting a solicitor for will advice ;)
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I love my grandparents dearly, but 2/3 of the ones who are still around should have their licence taken away, and my late grandfather should have packed in driving before he did as well. Utterly terrifying. And when they make a mistake they blame the person they pulled out in front of, or the person they carved up, or the curb they hit because they turned a corner too sharply, etc. What a stupid place to put a high curb..... Old people are generally arrogant and think they are entitled to drive, when it is a privilege which they should give up when they become a danger to other road users.
 
Chris Wilson said:
I'd be interested if stockhausen would cite the people he DOES approve of. The wealthy, the Conservative, the elderly, those with national pride, those that favour leaving the EU, those that voted in President Trump, those that oppose unfettered immigration, those that flirt with women, they all seem to come on his radar as undesirables ;) His drinking chum list must be pretty small....And I would hasten to add probably a nightmare to be with :) A night out with Bernard Manning would have done him a power of good!
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Is stalking a hobby of yours?

And don't get your hopes up, I aint buying you a drink Bernard ;)

The courts would see those whose impatience leads them into rash and ill judged manoeuvres to overtake slow moving vehicles as liable.
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I wonder what the courts will (fail to) make of some senile old gent happily pulling off a minor road onto a major road in front of oncoming traffic?
 
Chris Wilson said:
We live in such litigious times anyone who makes a move to apologise prior to legal proceedings leave themselves open to misinterpretation. Legal counsel would almost certainly advise against doing so. The obese lady who suffered seemingly escalating distress and injury would definitely seem the type where keeping one's gob shut might be deemed a wise course of action ;)
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Maybe so but there was a child in the vehicle whose welfare ought to have been taken in to account. An apology for one's distress wouldn't necessarily be taken as an admission of guilt. :)
 
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The women involved will tell us, via press, how the insurance company attributes blame, so, in not providing an apology,
the Royals public relations advisors, must be confident of his 'innocence', they can pay them off (like Uber recently did) and an NDA, but that would be damming too.

Would the director of public prosecutions see it as in the public interest to prosecute, if he wasn't taking care ... will we know ? parliamentary question ?
 
If he was driving without due care, we will never find out, and he won't get prosecuted.
We will never find out how the insurance company attributes blame.
The people in the other car will probably get paid off to keep schtum.
 
stockhausen said:
Is stalking a hobby of yours?
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He'd hardly have to be a stalker considering you start an RSS thread on an almost daily basis when you are raging about a group of people you don't like. You were even banned from posting your repetitive drivel for a while without an adult approving it first!
 
LOL ; Amber Rudd Newsnight interview about brexit ... made the comparison between a seat-belt and back-stop ... (freudian slip ?) .... "you wear it but hope you won't have to use it."

... and the queen now demanding "speaking well of each other and respecting different points of view" amid "fresh challenges" has she got nothing else she wants to say ?
maybe the truth is Philip and her disagreed about brexit and he drove off in a huff.
 
so, better late ....


he must have turned out of that junction 100's of times across the years,did someone/utube/police re-trace the route to see how sun intervenes ?
and, whether approaching his exit you already had good visibility, up and down the road.

As you get older, your eyesight can change.
Older drivers are also more susceptible to glare and take longer to recover from being dazzled. Recovery time from glare increases from average two seconds at age 15 to nine seconds at age 65.
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9s that's some 200m blindpsot window, of someone approaching @60mph
 
As you age your opinion will change. For example my late mother used to say people over 75 were a burden and should be snuffed out. When she reached 75 she was looking up the phone number for Mount Sinai hospital every time she sneezed. Glibly suggesting removing freedom from older people is disingenuous and I fully support older people retaining their mobility as long as possible, even if it means exercising extreme patience when they seem to be proceeding unduly slowly or do the odd daft thing. Whitchurch High Street is the venue of choice for young sprouts demonstrating their vent to atmosphere wastegates and their 4 inch exhausts at ridiculous speeds. To the extent there has had to be a firm clamping down on them. I have yet to have to leg it across the road due to a pensioner trying to show them what's what ;) I'll probably get mown down by one now I suppose....
 
I doubt my opinion will change and self interests/selfishness is unlikely to be a factor in changing my view by the time I hit old age as self driving cars will be ubiquitous by then.
 
Amusingly, she is now at risk of losing her license because of two charges of failing to provide the identity of a driver and two speeding offences last year!
 
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