AM4 Air Cooler

Relentless81 · 3 Mar 2019 at 17:54

Hi,

Looking for experiences and advice on an air cooler for my 2600x

I'm using the standard cooler but would like to swap it out sooner than I planned for something quieter and more effective at holding boost clocks for longer

Case will take coolers up to 170mm and would like something quiet but don't fancy spending noctua money again, maybe around £50/60

Thanks

Grandmaster Fap! · 3 Mar 2019 at 18:06

Scythe Mugen 5 or Thermalright Macho Rev B/C would be my picks, amazing coolers that are within degrees of the 'best' Noctua's at half the price.

4K8KW10 · 3 Mar 2019 at 18:11

Hi,

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Cryorig H7 Single Tower Heatsink with 120mm Fan= £34.99

Total: £41.01 (includes shipping: £6.02)

Relentless81 · 3 Mar 2019 at 19:43

Grandmaster Fap! said:
Scythe Mugen 5 or Thermalright Macho Rev B/C would be my picks, amazing coolers that are within degrees of the 'best' Noctua's at half the price.

Thanks, which do you use out of these two? I've had a Scythe Mugan Maxx before, remember it being quite good and quiet but not the easiest to install

4K8KW10 said:
Hi,

My basket at Overclockers UK:

1 x Cryorig H7 Single Tower Heatsink with 120mm Fan= £34.99

Total: £41.01 (includes shipping: £6.02)

Have you used this and if so any comments on it? I've read good and bad on them

Grandmaster Fap! · 3 Mar 2019 at 20:13

Relentless81 said:
Thanks, which do you use out of these two? I've had a Scythe Mugan Maxx before, remember it being quite good and quiet but not the easiest to install

I use the Macho Rev B on my 2700x, absolutely stunning cooler for the money, VERY quiet at full load and silent at idle. Never see my temps go above 55c while gaming and happily sits at 65c while doing stress tests, cant recommend it enough.

Also absolute doddle to install, even get a very nice magnetized screwdriver with it!

Relentless81 · 3 Mar 2019 at 21:45

Grandmaster Fap! said:
I use the Macho Rev B on my 2700x, absolutely stunning cooler for the money, VERY quiet at full load and silent at idle. Never see my temps go above 55c while gaming and happily sits at 65c while doing stress tests, cant recommend it enough.

Also absolute doddle to install, even get a very nice magnetized screwdriver with it!

Cant find them from a seller I trust they seem quite rare which is a shame, somewhere has a True Spirit 140 Direct in stock, sure I read they were decent on here recently but only seem to have 4 heat pipes

Grandmaster Fap! · 3 Mar 2019 at 22:01

I can see a few stockists have the rev B but if you are not comfortable getting it from them then the True Spirit is a very good shout, i believe @doyll really recommends it.

Relentless81 · 4 Mar 2019 at 07:55

Grandmaster Fap! said:
I can see a few stockists have the rev B but if you are not comfortable getting it from them then the True Spirit is a very good shout, i believe @doyll really recommends it.

Ok thanks, only one left in stock I might snap it up, would prefer the Macho though. No rush really I can keep looking, shame OCUK dont sell it.

How much would you expect the Macho to be?

Unseul · 4 Mar 2019 at 09:10

Aro m14 is the am4 version of the macho. Seen it for around £45-50 i believe. Bit more from a popular retailer but you may prefer the security around buying from them.

I've got one on my 2700x and it's silent for general browsing and streaming etc, and probably the quietest part when everything is hot. Comes with very thick pre applied paste, which probably hurts temps a little bit i still don't see above 65 very often. Also comes with an additional tube of thermal paste, can't remember the brand but supposedly a good one.

Relentless81 · 4 Mar 2019 at 09:44

Ah I see that makes sense now just had a quick look and it looks exactly the same, £55 big ones though

Wonder how much better it is than the 140 Direct

Grandmaster Fap! · 4 Mar 2019 at 09:45

Relentless81 said:
Ok thanks, only one left in stock I might snap it up, would prefer the Macho though. No rush really I can keep looking, shame OCUK dont sell it.

How much would you expect the Macho to be?

I got it for £37+5 shipping, amazing value for what it does. I see them around for £40-45 which i think is still well worth the price.

Relentless81 · 4 Mar 2019 at 10:43

Grandmaster Fap! said:
I got it for £37+5 shipping, amazing value for what it does. I see them around for £40-45 which i think is still well worth the price.

Ok I need to have a deeper look into the internets. Is yours branded as a Macho and came with AM4 kit or did you have to get the AM4 kit separately or is it branded as an Aro M14?

Thanks

Grandmaster Fap! · 4 Mar 2019 at 10:57

Relentless81 said:
Ok I need to have a deeper look into the internets. Is yours branded as a Macho and came with AM4 kit or did you have to get the AM4 kit separately or is it branded as an Aro M14?

Thanks

Mine is the Macho Rev B, it fits Intel and AM4 out the box.

EDIT: Ah yeah the Aro M14 is the AM4 specific version.

Relentless81 · 4 Mar 2019 at 11:03

Grandmaster Fap! said:
Mine is the Macho Rev B, it fits Intel and AM4 out the box, i believe there is a version that fits AM4 only but i cant remember what its called. It'll be on Thermalrights site though

Ok I found somewhere that sells that i haven't used before i might take a punt with them

Thanks for the help

Grandmaster Fap! · 4 Mar 2019 at 11:08

Relentless81 said:
Ok I found somewhere that sells that i haven't used before i might take a punt with them

Thanks for the help

No worries, let us know how you get on

doyll · 4 Mar 2019 at 12:12

Macho Rev. B and Macho ARO-M14 are basically same cooler with ARO-M14 having bigger base and only having AM4 mount. TRUE Spirit 140 Power is better cooling but is 171mm tall and 150mm wide so doesn't fit in all cases or clear GPU PCIe sockets on all motherboards. Machos are a few degrees warmer than the best, TRUE Spirit 140 Power is as good and a few degrees better.

When CPU makes lots of heat it's 6x 8mm heatpipes make a difference.

Relentless81 · 4 Mar 2019 at 14:52

doyll said:
Macho Rev. B and Macho ARO-M14 are basically same cooler with ARO-M14 having bigger base and only having AM4 mount. TRUE Spirit 140 Power is better cooling but is 171mm tall and 150mm wide so doesn't fit in all cases or clear GPU PCIe sockets on all motherboards. Machos are a few degrees warmer than the best, TRUE Spirit 140 Power is as good and a few degrees better. When CPU makes lots of heat it's 6x 8mm heatpipes make a difference.

Thanks doyll, so if my case fits the True Spirit then that's the better cooler but I'm slightly confused by your last sentence because it has four pipes and the Macho has more? Or am I being thick

4K8KW10 · 4 Mar 2019 at 15:23

Relentless81 said:
Thanks doyll, so if my case fits the True Spirit then that's the better cooler but I'm slightly confused by your last sentence because it has four pipes and the Macho has more? Or am I being thick

http://www.thermalright.de/en/cooler/34/true-spirit-140-power#prettyPhoto[pp_gal]/10/

Relentless81 · 4 Mar 2019 at 16:25

Clearly being think I was sure it had 4 cheers

doyll · 4 Mar 2019 at 18:03

Relentless81 said:
Thanks doyll, so if my case fits the True Spirit then that's the better cooler but I'm slightly confused by your last sentence because it has four pipes and the Macho has more? Or am I being thick

There are many different 'TRUE Spirit' coolers from 90mm to 140mm in both direct contact and enclosed heatpipes configurations. Same with Macho coolers. Got to Thermalright.de to see many of the different models. Thermalright has 3 or 4 different websites; thermalright.de, thermalright.com, therlmalright-china.com .. only one selling in UK and only one actually in UK with only a few coolers stocked, only one distributor in USA, none in Canada, etc. Best way to get Thermalright is look for alternate websites that ship to UK.