New Star Trek series - 2017
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Some of the characters in this are really forgettable, i mean off the top of my head i don't even know the name of the person at the helm with the "augmented" eye and the black girl that sits to her right with the dreadlocks.
If I recall they were both named in an early episode, if memory serves they are called Eyeball Emma and Ensign Rastafina
Some of the characters in this are really forgettable, i mean off the top of my head i don't even know the name of the person at the helm with the "augmented" eye and the black girl that sits to her right with the dreadlocks.
Aren’t they Michelle and Debbie?
I was having this discussion with someone at work where we couldn’t name anyone on the bridge crew except the main characters whereas in previous series of Trek you knew who the bridge crew were.
Quite possibly
Yeah, you'd think by now we would be pretty familiar with the regulars, the ones i know are Saru, Burnam, Pike, Spock, Georgeu, Tilly, Stamitz, Tyler...can't even recall the Jesus Dr name..
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I was just thinking after the reveal of the red angel, that dr is rubbish. 1st of all he couldn't tell klingon from human, now he cant tell mother from daughter. Fire him.
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Even better would have been to keep Pike and Spock and bin off Discovery. No ones interested, we want Enterprise!
The trailer for next weeks episode should please you then.
Havent seen the trailer yet, although I tend not to be up to date generally and dont watch until Mondays..
Not too keen on the retcon of the Borg origins, or the way its too emotional as a whole as it feels forced or out of place..
Not too keen on the retcon of the Borg origins, or the way its too emotional as a whole as it feels forced or out of place..
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Unless something has happened in today's episode (which I've not seen yet) it's not a "retcon of the Borg origins"
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It can't be a retcon as the origin of the Borg has never been explained in canon.
So, "Through The Valley Of Shadows". Who writes this dreck? Honestly...
Mary Sue Bonehead is now so important and powerful that Control expends a deal of time and effort just to get her on the S31 ship to turn/Borgify/assimilate/whatever her. She's now so awesome that she's become "the one variable it cannot account for", so Control must defeat her. God I'm so bored of this character
Hooray for continuity though, and the look-forward at what's going to happen to Pike on that Class J ship. Poor bugger. And once again Anson Mount out-acts the entire rest of the cast with a performance that could have veered into OTT melodrama with someone less capable. Looking at you, SMG. Before this series started you were a half-decent actress. What the hell happened? Other continuity points - there's a D7 (a real one, not that monstrosity that Season 1 called a D7) here, but we don't get a very good look at it sadly. Oh, and not really a nitpick but more an observation on how jeopardy doesn't really work in this series - Pike is going to set the auto-destruct, but we already know that the DiscoBall is intact 1000 years in the future from that Short Trek episode "Calypso", so even if we knew for certain that the showrunners wouldn't blow up the title ship we also know that in-story it doesn't blow up. Unless you want to get into the Short Treks being set in a different universe as far as canon goes...can open, worms all over the shop. It's the same way we knew how the Fed-Klink war from last season had to end. The only fun really is in how they tie it all up, or at least it would be fun if the writing staff were even vaguely competent. A pity, because I'd quite like to see the Disco reduced to its component atoms. The VFX crew on this show could make that look great
Wholesale lifting of ideas and tropes from other shows or franchises continues as well. The use-magnets-to-immobilise-the-nanotech deal is right out of Terminator 3, proving that STD will even rip off absolute garbage when not ripping off decent stuff. The time crystal thing is giving me quite the Bajoran orb vibe as a concept so at least they're still mining DS9 for reasonable ideas when they're not calling back/forward to the worse ones (Section 31 for example). And some riffing on Asimov's ideas as well, or at the very least the Hollywood mangling of them, with Bonehead berating Control for killing the S31 ship crew coming off like a less well-executed version of Dr. Calvin questioning VIKI's motives in "I, Robot".
Mary Sue Bonehead is now so important and powerful that Control expends a deal of time and effort just to get her on the S31 ship to turn/Borgify/assimilate/whatever her. She's now so awesome that she's become "the one variable it cannot account for", so Control must defeat her. God I'm so bored of this character
Hooray for continuity though, and the look-forward at what's going to happen to Pike on that Class J ship. Poor bugger. And once again Anson Mount out-acts the entire rest of the cast with a performance that could have veered into OTT melodrama with someone less capable. Looking at you, SMG. Before this series started you were a half-decent actress. What the hell happened? Other continuity points - there's a D7 (a real one, not that monstrosity that Season 1 called a D7) here, but we don't get a very good look at it sadly. Oh, and not really a nitpick but more an observation on how jeopardy doesn't really work in this series - Pike is going to set the auto-destruct, but we already know that the DiscoBall is intact 1000 years in the future from that Short Trek episode "Calypso", so even if we knew for certain that the showrunners wouldn't blow up the title ship we also know that in-story it doesn't blow up. Unless you want to get into the Short Treks being set in a different universe as far as canon goes...can open, worms all over the shop. It's the same way we knew how the Fed-Klink war from last season had to end. The only fun really is in how they tie it all up, or at least it would be fun if the writing staff were even vaguely competent. A pity, because I'd quite like to see the Disco reduced to its component atoms. The VFX crew on this show could make that look great
Wholesale lifting of ideas and tropes from other shows or franchises continues as well. The use-magnets-to-immobilise-the-nanotech deal is right out of Terminator 3, proving that STD will even rip off absolute garbage when not ripping off decent stuff. The time crystal thing is giving me quite the Bajoran orb vibe as a concept so at least they're still mining DS9 for reasonable ideas when they're not calling back/forward to the worse ones (Section 31 for example). And some riffing on Asimov's ideas as well, or at the very least the Hollywood mangling of them, with Bonehead berating Control for killing the S31 ship crew coming off like a less well-executed version of Dr. Calvin questioning VIKI's motives in "I, Robot".
Yep. It's been hinted at, we know from one Voyager episode that they were a thing in the late 1400s but had only assimilated a few star systems in the Delta Quadrant at that point. But no real backstory outside of a few contradictory accounts in the novels. The Memory Beta wiki tries to keep track of it. Mostly irrelevant as far as canon goes, but interesting all the same.
I know the Borg origins hasnt been fleshed out much but theres times they have been used before in timelines and series that suggest strongly where they have come from and got to where they are, unless at sompoint in STD they end up firing Control back in time and to the Delta Quadrant, or at least pushing it back in time and then it uses Sphere data to work out its best chance of "upgrade" is to go meet this race in the Delta Quadrant that then goes from some sort of advanced race where Control takes over a female form and then becomes the Borq Queen or something like that so at least it lines up with what has happened in canon so far?
Perhaps they could get "all" of Control into S31 chap who then gets time/transporter fracked "To the far side of the Universe" in an escape pod, that is then found on a planet by a female scientist, he dies in her arms after scratching her, and whats left of Control ends up being a handful of nanites that is then suggested turns her into the first Borg Queen, there, all explained, canon safe explanation done...
Perhaps they could get "all" of Control into S31 chap who then gets time/transporter fracked "To the far side of the Universe" in an escape pod, that is then found on a planet by a female scientist, he dies in her arms after scratching her, and whats left of Control ends up being a handful of nanites that is then suggested turns her into the first Borg Queen, there, all explained, canon safe explanation done...
Wouldn't make sense from a story point of view unless something happened that erases all of Control's prior knowledge as i'm pretty sure that they would be turning up on our doorstep again much sooner than they do in the other series.
Decent enough episode for today. Absolutely sick of Burnham being the all important key sodding character amongst all this. Great to see Jett back though her appearances are so scarce that I wonder why bother getting her into the show at all.
I need to watch these short stories though, anyone know where I'd find them?
I need to watch these short stories though, anyone know where I'd find them?
They are on netflix.
Oh lol, cheers. Not seen them on my Netflix front page so I assumed they were on some website!