20 million PC gamers could defect from PCs to consoles by 2022

Wouldn’t surprise me at all, and I lay the blame at the feet of Nvidia for their greed, and consumers for buying Nvidia even when AMD provides a better solution for the money.

I built my recent PC almost entirely second hand purely because the industry pricing was going crazy.

The only way I don’t see a huge decline for the PC market is if many people go second hand, AMD releases CPUs and GPUs that shake the market up, or Nvidia realise what a terrible job they’re making of it and change their strategy completely.

I won’t be changing over, I love absolutely everything about PC; the flexibility, modding, building, maintaining, game prices (though they’re climbing). Recently I’ve added the significantly superior experience of VR to that. I paid a very good price for my 3 sensor Rift setup.
 
PC gaming is not about the highest graphics games set on maximum settings with some SLI or crossfire setup.

Having a proper gaming PC is extremely cheap over time

I just logged into OCUK to find this

20 Jul 2016

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Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz (Skylake) Socket LGA1151 Processor - Retail
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Asus Maximus VIII Hero Intel Z170 (Socket 1151) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
MB-651-AS
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£156.66
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FREE WITH MB-651-AS: Doom (PC 2016) Game Code - Asus Promotion
XX-019-AS
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FOR FREE!
FOR FREE!


Corsair HX750i 750W '80 Plus Platinum Digital Modular Power Supply (CP-9020072-UK)
CA-181-CS
1
£112.49
£112.49


Samsung 950 Pro 256GB M.2 PCI-e 3.0 x 4 NVMe Solid State Drive
HD-215-SA
1
£149.99
£149.99


Corsair Vengeance LED 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Red LED
MY-48G-CS
1
£149.99
£149.99


Asus GeForce GTX 1080 DirectCU III Strix Aura RGB 8192MB GDDR5X PCI-Express Graphics Card
GX-405-AS
1
£579.99
£579.99

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£1,698.94

A CPU cooler and Case, lets round it to £2000, and that was 1000 days ago, working out at £2 a day.

That was excessive IMO, and i am playing games that do not need anywhere near the power to do so.

It will last at least 1 more year perhaps longer

Regardless you can easily spend £1000 in july 2016 making it £1 a day

Keep in mind you need a PC anyway, so this is not even the full cost.

So in conclusion, the idea in the OP is total nonsense.
 
robfosters said:
That rig won’t suffice for 60FPS 4K though. The PS5 will.
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lets wait and see....... the PS4 (vanilla) was touted was going to be 1080P/60 for all games and the truth was far that. (my pro just about manages it).

also, whilst some of the sony titles on the ps4 are outstanding, i just dont see me going back to paying yearly subs to play online. it is a fallacy that PCs need to be upgraded all the time. My 2015 i7 is still going strong and the only think i have upgraded on it is my gpu. IF you buy smart PCs can last a long time... just look at the folk who bought a gtx 1080ti on launch day, they are still laughing now and that gpu will happily see out the current 20xx generation.

the current RTX generation is very new and i think will hit obsolescence quite quickly but i bet a 2180 or 2180ti if feeling flush will see out the entire ps5 generation. take into account no online fees and cheaper pc games..........

People have been touting "the end is neigh" for PC gaming for years but it has not happened yet.

at the high end i do agree it is a dark time for pc gaming right now but it will come around again i hope, esp if AMD or intel can get a rival out to compete like for like.
 
Was pondering this myself recently just spent close to £3k on hardware and find the PC has dulled down hard. The only recent game i picked up metro exodus where you can turn on all the PC hardware specs still shows it made first for consoles in some areas. Holding out hope that there will be some dev who makes a decent game which pushes the hardware. Doubtful its going to happen now the further down the road towards the next gen of consoles. Its the cost of the hardware that has made people shy away with the monopoly DDR prices in the past year and nvidia with the sheer scales of greed.

Sad to see i hope it changes else because right now i use my PC for internet browsing and procrastinating what games i want to play.
 
I'm starting to align myself to PC as my main platform. Origin Premier subscription has been worth it for me since you get FIFA Ultimate Edition each year (costs the same as the subscription) plus whatever else comes out and the back catalogue.

Games like Apex and PUBG I've been playing and they are absolutely more enjoyable on PC. Xbox Game Pass works on PC as well so I'll subscribe again when there's a good year of releases.

The only reason I'm on my Xbox One X is basically to play online with my mates plus the occasional 4k blu ray.

The only mainstay console I see myself sticking with is the Switch simply because I love Nintendo games in general and portable factor.
 
as the boxes under your tv get more powerful it will be easier to just get the one box that does all. it will happen at some point. all tv channels all games all everything in one small box. its just putting the package together to do that. simplfying everything.
 
Wouldn't surprise me, PC gaming is getting expensive.

Exclusives are looking better and better for the consoles compared to what we get from AAA releases on PC lately.
 
VincentHanna said:
That's because you are used to a Mouse and keyboard, believe me you will adapt to controllers, and as all your opponents on console also tend to be playing on controllers, it does level the playing field somewhat.
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It isn't really about adapting a lot of games a controller is a far inferior experience to keyboard and mouse.

I think one aspect that might enable a movement over is the general poor quality of a lot of games these days - too many career game developers that don't have the passion (or commercial freedom) to make innovative games that would distinguish more the strength of the PC as a gaming platform.
 
I haven’t had to upgrade my CPU in donkeys. That leaves the graphics card. Buying a £400 graphics card every three years isn’t going to be problem for most people.

PC gaming really isn’t that expensive.
 
Rroff said:
It isn't really about adapting a lot of games a controller is a far inferior experience to keyboard and mouse.

I think one aspect that might enable a movement over is the general poor quality of a lot of games these days - too many career game developers that don't have the passion (or commercial freedom) to make innovative games that would distinguish more the strength of the PC as a gaming platform.
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That's your opinion.

I admit that games live Civilisation VI with a controller wouldn't be practical really, but I played XCOM with a controller which was fine. Third person games like 'The Witcher 3' work fine with a control pad. GTA V...most games.
 
VincentHanna said:
That's your opinion.

I admit that games live Civilisation VI with a controller wouldn't be practical really, but I played XCOM with a controller which was fine. Third person games like 'The Witcher 3' work fine with a control pad. GTA V...most games.
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Civ VI works brilliantly on the Switch
 
Ocean Breeze said:
The PC will always destroy whatever console comes along. Consoles have to be made to be affordable so they can never compete in terms of graphics and frame rates.
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PC hardware has reached diminishing returns though, upgrading from a 6-8 core CPU to 12-16 doesn't make a blind bit of difference to gaming, graphics card prices have gone through the roof but improvements in performance are less than ever.

Next generation consoles will be close to parity, will probably have unified memory architecture with far more CPU to GPU bandwidth and developers actually optimise properly because it's a fixed platform.
 
Rroff said:
It isn't really about adapting a lot of games a controller is a far inferior experience to keyboard and mouse.
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Malevolence said:
Play FPS games on a controller? **** off!
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i like these kinds of posts :)
I would argue a pad isnt an inferior experience at all.... in the case of FPSers it is most certainly a less effective control method, but i would say lounging on the sofa with a pad is more enjoyable than sitting at a desk or trying to use a laptray with your KB/M.

i also think KB/M promotes cheesy unrealistic play which depending on the game is just silly. going to VR shows just how nuts the instant 180 degree turn on the spot then have perfect pinpoint accuracy is. do that in VR and you just feel sick and disorientated... and using your body to turn in VR fpsers rather than a pad or KB/M and you realise it is simply impossible to move like those using KB/M move.

the limitations that a pad force on you actually makes you play slightly more realistically imo. this may or may not matter to you.

Also controls need to be considered from the off, a halo and destiny for instance handle beautifully on a pad because their primary users were always going to be on a pad. HL2 OTOH not so much.

some game OTOH a Mouse just makes more sense, stuff like RTS etc.... personally i would not play them on a sofa however (though that said xcom works well enough but that is turn based not rts)

of course it is all subjective. what is good/important to me is clearly different to others....
 
Rroff said:
It isn't really about adapting a lot of games a controller is a far inferior experience to keyboard and mouse.

I think one aspect that might enable a movement over is the general poor quality of a lot of games these days - too many career game developers that don't have the passion (or commercial freedom) to make innovative games that would distinguish more the strength of the PC as a gaming platform.
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And too many old developers who have given up, seen the money and now just grift.

The graveyard of developers is depressing recently, really tired with the misleading claims and outright lies.
 
It depends on your standards, if you're prepared to accept the lower quality of consoles then you can just as easily keep an older rig going on lower settings and keep the benefits.

Its only super expensive if you absolutely must have the maximum experience gaming at 4k120 with maximum settings on new releases. Otherwise just drop a few settings and enjoy life.
 
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