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Sorry, but this is insane!


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/0..._the_world_s_tallest_mo-a-7_1558852024229.jpg

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I can understand why people like Hillary and Mallory might have wanted to do this.

But there is nothing unknown or special about this any more, really.

There is nothing adventurous or in any real way special or unique.

It is just stupid dangerous for no real gain or sense of achievement (Except perhaps from surviving stupid dangerous I suppose)

They might as well just install a ski lift!

Nowadays it just looks like a queue to a ride on a death roller-coaster!

Why do people do this??

:(
 
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I heard there's a permit cost of ~£8,600 and a small weather window for the climbing season there. How much of this has become 'must-do' for rich tourists that really have no relevant climbing experience in being there - just the funds to do it?
 
HookAyy

How should one post images that one has seen then??

(Yes really, please give a dummy's guide! I am a hardware freak. Back in the 80's I had several hundred (perhaps more) pounds worth of Hi-Fi and one record! Yeah, I know, Its nutz! :cool: ). The intricacies of the inter-web and smartphones are really not part of my world bar e-mails and posting on forums)
 
Even money alone wont do it, its still a massive physical demand with a very real chance of not returning (ok smaller than it used to be but the summit is littered with corpses for a reason)
 
Orionaut said:
HookAyy

How should one post images that one has seen then??

(Yes really, please give a dummy's guide! I am a hardware freak. Back in the 80's I had several hundred (perhaps more) pounds worth of Hi-Fi and one record! Yeah, I know, Its nutz! :cool: ). The intricacies of the inter-web and smartphones are really not part of my world bar e-mails and posting on forums)
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Use an image hosting service such as https://postimages.org/

There's even an option to upload an image via just pasting in the URL. It will return a link on their own site which the mods will be okay with you linking to. They don't mean you can't link to an image, they mean you can't hotlink to an image, i.e. one embedded in another article that wasn't intended to be shared as an image link.
 
Something like 20 deaths this season out of 380 permits issued. Over 5% death rate.

But yeah, crazy to be in hours long queues at the top of everest.

Im starting to think Thanos had the right idea.
 
danlightbulb said:
Im starting to think Thanos had the right idea.
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Thanos had a terrible idea. After mass-death such as plague or war, people go into a massive breeding frenzy. In addition two in three couples would have broken up by the mass death leading to a massive re-pairing of people leading to even further increase in birth rate. The sudden collapse in property prices and availability of cheap housing would drive that even further. And whilst loss of expertise would be a big issue, modern mechanised farming means existing food production levels could be mostly maintained - there'd still be the manpower because our Service sector is essentially a buffer pool of labour that can be reallocated without anything much of value being lost. And the catastrophic cultural and social upheaval would retard progress for decades, all of which moving humanity further away from the sort of modern society that voluntarily reduces birth rates.

If Thanos actually wanted to achieve his stated ends he should have focused on education and career opportunities for women in the developing world - something which is proven to lower birth rates.

This was a major plot hole that diminished my enjoyment of the movie greatly.
 
Orionaut said:
Sorry, but this is insane!


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/0..._the_world_s_tallest_mo-a-7_1558852024229.jpg

** Do not hotlink images **

I can understand why people like Hillary and Mallory might have wanted to do this.

But there is nothing unknown or special about this any more, really.

There is nothing adventurous or in any real way special or unique.

It is just stupid dangerous for no real gain or sense of achievement (Except perhaps from surviving stupid dangerous I suppose)

They might as well just install a ski lift!

Nowadays it just looks like a queue to a ride on a death roller-coaster!

Why do people do this??

:(
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im Sure any climber that makes it up and survives sees it as an adventure and a huge personal achievement , it is special and unique in the sense that it the highest peak in the world and the dangers create a huge challenge which is appealing to some people. I’ve been up a few peaks in the Lake District , some of them multiple times and although it’s in no way anything like Everest I still feel like I had conquered something.

It’s unfortunate that the amount of people trying it is causing issues and maybe putting some at risk, they need to limit the amount of permits they sell
 
It's very special and insanely difficult to climb Everest. There's a small window of opportunity to reach the summit so that's why there's a lot of people there at the same time, when the above picture was taken the conditions were likely perfect so a lot of people were attempting it at the same time. It's not like there's a constant stream of people going there all day long, they only issued 381 passes for the season.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2719848/

That's a good film to watch
 
Hasn't there only been around 4 or 5 thousand people who have climbed it? It's still a pretty exclusive club when you consider how long we've been on this planet...
 
I don't think people really realize it isn't just like a day trip to the park....

You still have to get up there yourself and it's still incredibly dangerous..... but no idea why that queue though? maybe a particularly good day to attempt a summit. You can only do it during very short windows with a lot of people camped just below waiting for their chance to ascend.
 
People seem to be able to blow $11k just to get a permit to climb to the top.. are they even making any of this money back? Don't see the point really.
 
A2Z said:
People seem to be able to blow $11k just to get a permit to climb to the top.. are they even making any of this money back? Don't see the point really.
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Like any hobby you never get the money back you invested.

Wether or not the experience is worth the money is entirely down to the person spending it.
 
Orionaut said:
But there is nothing unknown or special about this any more, really.

There is nothing adventurous or in any real way special or unique.

It is just stupid dangerous for no real gain or sense of achievement (Except perhaps from surviving stupid dangerous I suppose)
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Even with all the equipment it's still incredibly hard - people regularly die just hiking to base camp! It's not like you just rock up in Nepal, catch a a train then walk up the summit like you'd do at Snowdon. It takes weeks to acclimatise plus the months of high altitude training before even going to Nepal.

As an active climber during my early 30's including a base camp trek on Everest and a brush with the 8000m death zone on Cho Oyu (failed summit attempt) I can certainly see the attraction of Everest to passionate climbers.
 
A2Z said:
People seem to be able to blow $11k just to get a permit to climb to the top.. are they even making any of this money back? Don't see the point really.
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they’re doing something they really want to do, probably an once in a lifetime experience for many and like most other activities it costs money they don’t get back
 
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