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Well I'm actually a little disappointed, IPC gains are great as is price just the clock speeds are a little underwhelming. I'll await actual benchmarks but
I can see my trusty 5960x soldiering on for another year. I want better gaming performance than the 9900K not equivalent. It's a much newer architecture and process so I'd expect better rather than equal performance although obviously AMD had fewer resources to throw at its development than Intel.
I'll wait until September and see how the dust settles but I really want at least 5GHZ at the new level of IPC so hopefully they'll overclock or something better gets released soon.
 

Whole thing summarised in 10mins if you want to watch.

3900x for me. Go big or go home. The 3800x would I bet be enough but I haven't built a rig for over 10 years. This needs to be a good one :D

Seeing that PCIE4.0 performance increase over 3.0 was something else!
 
Phate said:
Whole thing summarised in 10mins if you want to watch.

3900x for me. Go big or go home. The 3800x would I bet be enough but I haven't built a rig for over 10 years. This needs to be a good one :D

Seeing that PCIE4.0 performance increase over 3.0 was something else!
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Depends on if there's a significant overclockability difference between the 8 and 12 core cpus. If not I will probably go 12 core too.
 
Well, my GTX970 died last week, so been hanging on to see what the Red side are planning on that front. Now I might be saving for an upgrade to my ageing i5. Always loved my Athlon CPUs back in the day. Thinking and saving to do...
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
Depends on if there's a significant overclockability difference between the 8 and 12 core cpus. If not I will probably go 12 core too.
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I am not worried about Overclocking, I just want mine as quick as possible out of the box. My colleagues are exploding with anxiety as I am going to build some ridiculous rig and not OC it but that is their problem, not mine :D
 
Jacky60 said:
I can see my trusty 5960x soldiering on for another year. I want better gaming performance than the 9900K not equivalent. It's a much newer architecture and process so I'd expect better rather than equal performance although obviously AMD had fewer resources to throw at its development than Intel.
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I went from a 5960X to a 8086K and I've seen large improvements, mainly due to the clock speed. I'm holding out for the 16 core.
 
snow patrol said:
yup, although I'm slowly getting used to it as i'm using it a lot at work. So it won't be too harsh a change. If anything, it will make me faster at work and at home as i won't keep muddling things up :D
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The Mac Mini is a good buy, just upgrade the RAM yourself. Very powerful little machine, if you want to stay with macOS that is.
 
Is the 105w 3800 going to require a 4 + 4 CPU power cables and the 65watt going to be fine with just a 4 pin cpu power cable? And therefore can work in more basic motherboards?

Do you think the 105watt will overclockers better due to the extra power availability?
 
@Plec

Trying to find out Elite for you, Master is 12+2 Phase design ( listed as 14 total) , upgraded from Master's IR 3553 40amp units to IR 3556 50amps along with 2 extra phases so 600amps

have a feeling Elite/Pro has increase of 2 phases or moved to IR units .
Current z390 Elite-Ultra uses SiC634 at 50amps - if going from 12 to 14 would be increase from 600amps to 700amps (Z390 master only had 450amps but quality of units were night and day) .

also... Elite looks better then the Pro !!!!!! think of early x370 aorus but black

actually the z390 pro looks better then x570 pro which is a shame but sure it will do extremely well

sorry plec ****** its 12 x 2 phase design but cant comment on Mosfets used. as above Elite looks better but Pro has Finned heatsink ! if your going 12 cores go with that one!
 
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Well at least I’ll get a chance to see if the X570 boards are worth it by the time a 16 core is released.

New chips are looking good though for those not already on Zen+.
 
I think I will just wait for reviews now. Only really interested in gaming performance

Not looking to spend more on a CPU than I did on my 1600X so looks like I'm still stuck on 6c/12t 3600X so it will all be down to ipc and clock speeds

I will also need to see how they perform on X370 motherboards as I'm not changing my asrock taichi yet

Edit- when is review embargo lifted?
 
Am I right in thinking the boost clocks listed are different from XFR clocks? i.e. they could go higher than the listed boost clocks under XFR?

Some mention that ASUS have some new hardware improving memory overclocking. Lots to consider over the next few weeks.
 
So it looks like the majority of leaks were simply BS, surprise surprise.

So far we've only been offered two 8 cores and one 12 core with the 12 core having a boost of 4.6 ghz

nashathedog said:
Personally I think these nunbers being quoted are wide of the mark, I think we're more likely to get what their graph in the video calls the 3700 as the flagship, all the others are probably just wishful thinking,

In a recent interview Lisa Su confirmed that there would be more than 8 cores available but not how many cores or how many different models, For me a 12 core 24 thread cpu with a max clock of around 4.6 or 4.7 ghz sounds realistic. Unlike the higher examples. I suppose we might see a 16 core 32 thread model but again I can't see clocks going beyond 4.6 or 4.7 ghz.
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I don't mean to blow my own trumpet* but it's always best to err on the side of what's realistic rather than feed into the delusion that so many Youtuber's push for views. It's possible we may still see a 16 core at some point though.




*Maybe I do a little bit. :D
 
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