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AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

FoxEye said:
For me - not looking/care at halo products - I can see that AMD is simply matching Intel's pricing.

There is no 8-core/16-thread part for £200 like AMD fans were predicting.

Where are they guys? Where are these 8c/16t £200 chips? Where is the 12c/24t part you were predicting for £300+?

How did those "AMD will save us" predictions go again?

But of course we'll ignore all those predictions now that they were hopelessly wide of the mark, and just concentrate on how these current prices are soooooooooooo greeeeeeeat.

Typical AMD defence force on here.
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The prices aren't as great as many had hoped for, granted; but surely you can see that a 3700X for $330 appears to match a 9900K, which costs $480, at 2/3 of the power consumption?

Granted also that we don't yet know gaming performance, but 15% IPC gain over Zen+ should be enough to assume that a $330 AMD chip will compare with Intel's $480 chip, since you're wanting to talk mid range.
 
easyrider said:
So the 3700x is an 8/16 part running at 4.4ghz....

So the second coming Zen 2 won’t beat a 9900ks ?

Sad times...
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Funny isn't it.

From (leaked) 12c/12t @ 5ghz for £300 ish, to 12c/24t @ 4.6 for £500, or 8c/16t @ 4.4 for £300.

Perhaps it was the best they could do.

Intel likely to keep performance crown (tho halo products really don't interest me at all).

Perhaps there is something we can all agree on:

AdoredTV is full of pig excrement (as well as being exceedingly annoying to listen to, alreet geeys).

Participant said:
The prices aren't as great as many had hoped for, granted; but surely you can see that a 3700X for $330 appears to match a 9900K, which costs $500, at 2/3 of the power consumption?

Granted also that we don't yet know gaming performance, but 15% IPC gain over Zen+ should be enough to assume that a $330 AMD chip will compare with Intel's $500 chip, since you're wanting to talk mid range.
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Perhaps in Cinebench (lol), but I'm not making any assumptions so favourable to AMD without seeing benchmarks.

I don't personally believe it at all.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
It does not need 5Ghz to beat it when AMD managed a huge 15% IPC increase.
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It won’t beat the 9900ks ....

FoxEye said:
Funny isn't it.

From (leaked) 12c/12t @ 5ghz for £300 ish, to 12c/24t @ 4.6 for £500, or 8c/16t @ 4.4 for £300.

Perhaps it was the best they could do.

Intel likely to keep performance crown (tho halo products really don't interest me at all).

Perhaps there is something we can all agree on:

AdoredTV is full of pig excrement (as well as being exceedingly annoying to listen to, alreet geeys).



Perhaps in Cinebench (lol), but I'm not making any assumptions so favourable to AMD without seeing benchmarks.

I don't personally believe it at all.
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Adored TV is Adored by the naive kids...:p click bait Alfred geeys....

Can’t understand anyone watching that dross.
 
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Talking about the halo Intel products just makes AMD easier to sell, tbh.

I'm not even sure the 3700X will beat a 9700K across the board - esp in gaming.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Half the power consumption, half the price and worse case scenario it's on par, best case you can overclock it and it smashes the 9900Ks doors in. Oh and the ryzen is not a security risk with HT/SMT enabled.
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It’s not half the price ?

Participant said:
:D easyrider pwned again.
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Not really I’m getting a 3900x
 
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beany_bot said:
Just watched the Keynote. Emmmm, not sure how I feel.
Pretty sure I wont be buying the 12 core at £500!!! ouch. thats a lot. Im not paying that for a gaming CPU.

Never thought I would say this with Zen2 but I might wait to see what Intel do in H2 2019.
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I think people expected too much when it came to pricing.
Thinking about where we were a few years ago. £500 for 12 cores? 2016/17, it was £350 for 4.
Think I said elsewhere or earlier in this thread I thought the 16 core would come in around £600 or so. So £500 for 12 not over what I expected really.
For gaming only, 12 cores is probably not needed to be honest, so go with the 8 core 16 thread part.
AMD need to make good profits which can then maybe enable them to spend much more on GPU R&D. They're really on the ball when it comes to CPU's. Competitive performance, efficiency and arguably still very competitive on pricing (ie, £500 for 12 cores vs similar for 8 core 9900K).
 
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