AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[easyrider]

If you bought a 2700x for £329 and sell it for £200

Then you put this £200 towards a 3700x at £329

You’ve lost £129 already and need to spend another £129 so the upgrade is costing you £260 that a lot for 15% gain in IPC

 

[MaXxBoulton]

15% faster than a 2600x that one can get for less...

PCIe4? native 3200mhz ram support? 40 pcie lanes? 35mb of cache? and its 15% faster plue we hope a lot better at overclocking

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

just think you could have had that 4 years ago. for same price. how amd have done well.

What consumer CPU did Intel have in 2015 that had 6c and was £200?
Intel released the 8700K a little over 18 months ago, and it was not £200 at release. It isn't even that now.

 

[easyrider]

PCIe4? native 3200mhz ram support? 40 pcie lanes? 35mb of cache? and its 15% faster plue we hope a lot better at overclocking

I’m talking about using your old motherboard...a clear selling point for AMD fanatics on here...

 

[humbug]

However currently only real news on it doing 4.1GHz all cores:
https://t.co/y57G32LGj2

I think that's probably pretty accurate, but with a 15% IPC boost its fine, that's 15% higher IPC than Coffeelake.

Its a case of lower clocks, but higher IPC.

 

[Vish Petrol]

£260. and only 6 threads

I bought the 8 core 1700 for £285 in April 2017. The 6 core at the time was £200

 

[humbug]

I bought the 8 core 1700 for £285 in April 2017. The 6 core at the time was £200

Intel 6 core? none K, so no overclocking, and still only 6 threads, i'm sorry but my £160 1600 is faster.

 

[keyser]

noise is quite a big thing to many. i guess no noise is better than any noise.

Yes its the noise thing for me. It's ok though, I can dust off my 939 northbridge cooler that I bought for my last AMD motherboard

• ZM-NBF47 does not need electrical power
  
• because it is a fanless Northbridge cooler that operates without noise or vibration. It cools the chipset to its optimal temperature in absolute silence.

My next build will hopefully only have one 140mm Noctua fan in it. Plus zero-idle fan on the GPU.

 

[Ross Thomson]

However currently only real news on it doing 4.1GHz all cores:
https://t.co/y57G32LGj2

That doesn't bother me as 4.1 on 16 will be better than 4.4 on 12 for my usage.

 

[Vish Petrol]

PCIe4? native 3200mhz ram support? 40 pcie lanes? 35mb of cache? and its 15% faster plue we hope a lot better at overclocking

The better x370 mobos supported 3000mhz and up ram. My taichi supported my cl14 3000 out of the box and worked fine with a clock speed increase at 3200mhz upon release.

 

[Potatowithearsontheside]

If you bought a 2700x for £329 and sell it for £200

Then you put this £200 towards a 3700x at £329

You’ve lost £129 already and need to spend another £129 so the upgrade is costing you £260 that a lot for 15% gain in IPC

If you sell and then buy each and every year then you are effectively renting a CPU, with the cost being the difference in sale to purchase price. That isn't representative of what 99% of the market does. Besides which, you'd presumably be doing the same thing with the mobo every other year. That's a pretty inefficient upgrade methodology; you're always paying the day 1 premium, and you only ever get the "end of life" sale price. The only conceivable benefit is in constantly winning the e-peen contest.

 

[orbitalwalsh]

totally this lol.
#selfpwned

never thought i'd see they day, criticising AMD pricing plan

I learnt my lesson with a quad core that suddenly began stuttering in all games.
100% load at any given moment means that if another Windows process or App asks the CPU for its time, you will get a freeze, or severe stuttering, a driver stop responding and other "beauties".

would def recommend Ryzen 6 core for new builds, just couldnt recommend 12 cores currently , going back to thread post , indeed doubling cores - but almost makes you want to hold out for Zen3 if pushing 12 cores with hopefully increased speed

PCIe4? native 3200mhz ram support? 40 pcie lanes? 35mb of cache? and its 15% faster plue we hope a lot better at overclocking

realised PCIe 4.0 and Lanes dont go well together . everyone is stuck with PCIe 3.0 for so long and its limitations, a lot forget that PCIe 4.0 has double the bandwidth , so in theory double pcie 3.0 lanes

I hope nvme 4.0 shows better increases in games, just purely based on the sheer speed of the thing , might help its uptake a little

 

[MaXxBoulton]

PS5 is going to clean up. PC is just getting more expensive.

yep cant wait for all the apps on the ps5, adobe, light studio, all the accounting and audio editing stuff.
offices all over the world running just ps5's.

if all you use your PC for is gaming do think thats the sole use for them.
you dont need a £3000 system to game, its people's choice to do that. you can game at 1440 for under £500(with better than console details).

 

[MaXxBoulton]

If you bought a 2700x for £329 and sell it for £200
Then you put this £200 towards a 3700x at £329
You’ve lost £129 already and need to spend another £129 so the upgrade is costing you £260 that a lot for 15% gain in IPC

i will assume you have nove dose a silly upgrade? do you want me to look at your posting history?
you have a ryzen 2600, in the last 2 years have you had a CPU with the same or more power?

 

[easyrider]

If you sell and then buy each and every year then you are effectively renting a CPU, with the cost being the difference in sale to purchase price. That isn't representative of what 99% of the market does. Besides which, you'd presumably be doing the same thing with the mobo every other year. That's a pretty inefficient upgrade methodology; you're always paying the day 1 premium, and you only ever get the "end of life" sale price. The only conceivable benefit is in constantly winning the e-peen contest.

Yet most on here will keep their old mobos and sell there 2700x to get that 3700x...so your point ?

 

[~>Dg<~]

What consumer CPU did Intel have in 2015 that had 6c and was £200?
Intel released the 8700K a little over 18 months ago, and it was not £200 at release. It isn't even that now.

you could get a 5820k for 220 at one point. basically as fast as a 6 core amd chip thats going to cost you £200 now. 4 years ago.

 

[MaXxBoulton]

I’m talking about using your old motherboard...a clear selling point for AMD fanatics on here...

ooo no if i had a 2600x i would not drop a new one in.
right now i have no system. the one in the sig is the GF's and she wants it back...

 

[d_brennen]

If you bought a 2700x for £329 and sell it for £200

Then you put this £200 towards a 3700x at £329

You’ve lost £129 already and need to spend another £129 so the upgrade is costing you £260 that a lot for 15% gain in IPC

It's yet to be seen what the upgrade performance will be on older boards. You could argue that Intel give you one upgrade path, a new motherboard

 

[easyrider]

i will assume you have nove dose a silly upgrade? do you want me to look at your posting history?
you have a ryzen 2600, in the last 2 years have you had a CPU with the same or more power?

More power I bought a 9900k for £499 and sold it 6 weeks later for for £480

 

[kitfit1]

The only conceivable benefit is in constantly winning the e-peen contest.
A wholehearted congratulations on being the biggest dick on the internet.