Cant see point of changing motherboard... If I was to change cpu and motherboard Every freaking Year id stay on Intel side. For me AMD had 2 selling points over intel. Solder and AM4 lasting 3 or 4 CPU's quite possible Zen2+ will also work on 370/470 motherboards
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PCIe 4.0. New videocards. You can't stay with 3.0, can you?
Those that upgrade infrequently (like myself) probably aren't going to get a 6-core, because the shelf life for those is only realistically a couple years.Or less, or more...
Ryzen 5 3600 - £189
ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 X570 - £139
16GB (2x 8GB) Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3000MHz - £68
Total = £396
Ryzen 9 3900X - £499
Asus/Asrock/Gigabyte/MSI Highend board - £300-400
16GB Overpriced branded RAM - £150-200
Total = £949 - 1099.
So I stand by £300 for the cheapest 8-core, £220 ish for the mobo (again infrequent upgraders aren't going to want an older-gen mobo, most likely), and £160 ish for the RAM.
So either we reevalute the strategy of infrequent upgrading (it's a PITA to keep selling on the old gear, and I don't have money to burn to turn them into media PCs or something McGuffin), or suck up a £700+ upgrade.
Do you just smash your face on your keyboard on a daily basis? Since that how it seems.
More fun changing more often.
It has been repeated multiple times that Zen2+ doesn't exist and such a word should never be used. Zen 3 can be a major change, for example 4-way SMT, etc.
You can there will be like 1-2% gain Maybe hardly any gain on gpu going from x8 to x16 as it is and thats on 2080ti
What gains would You expect from
Or less, or more...
Ryzen 5 3600 - £189
ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 X570 - £139
16GB (2x 8GB) Crucial Ballistix DDR4 3000MHz - £68
Total = £396
Ryzen 9 3900X - £499
Asus/Asrock/Gigabyte/MSI Highend board - £300-400
16GB Overpriced branded RAM - £150-200
Total = £949 - 1099.
If the ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 X570 is £140 i night buy it.
You can there will be like 1-2% gain Maybe hardly any gain on gpu going from x8 to x16 as it is and thats on 2080ti
What gains would You expect from
That's fake. Navi can saturate the PCIe 4.0 bus
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It would be funny if they do produce a Zen 2+ as that would apparently make you Adoredtv 2.
Well navi is junk comopared to 2080ti anyway. And I bet many people here run M2 NVME in Raid as system drive to have some gains.That's fake. Navi can saturate the PCIe 4.0 bus
So where is the PCIE4 performance gain ?? Besides that X470 will have pcie4 but not officailly supported. Shiet I got PCIE4 bios installed AT THIS VERY MOMENT.
So hold on, a 2500K 4c/4t is fine, but a CPU that has 3x as many threads and is potentially faster than an 8700K at total cost just over than of said CPU or the 8c/8t 9700K? You don't think that if you get a £189 CPU, that the saved £110 won't buy you a faster CPU by the time your 6c/12t part is too slow and you'll have spent the same or less money in total?
Also the board I listed is a brand new X570 board, not an old one at £139, what extra is that £80 more going to get you? Also what RAM are you buying for £160 that is going to be over 100% faster than the same amount of RAM from a different brand at £65-75?
If you had bought an i7 2600K not a 2500K I think your argument would be more valid, but you went for the budget option then, what is wrong with it now?
Well I think Zen2+ could happen tbh aka 16 core AM4 cpu
I remember reading somewhere that there will be tad beter revision of Zen2 on 7nm once it matures. I dont see problem with AMD sticking to 7nm till 2021 atm with intel being so far behind on theirs 10nm at this stage.Well I think Zen2+ could happen tbh aka 16 core AM4 cpu
That won't deserve even the "plus"
Also, 2021 is ok, even 2024 will be fine. New processes become ever more sophisticated and difficult to go to.
It’s a bit more than that for older intel systems. Reusing as much as I am able I’ll want/need:
CPU
Mobo
RAM
M.2 boot drive
PSU (seems sensible with this level of upgrade)
Case, GPU, SATA and optical drives I can reuse on the cheap.
I asked someone a favour, the did it and got me some pricing from ASRock, I'd imagine that you'll see it between £139-£159 depending on which retailer you prefer. If the low end boards are in short supply you might see some scalping on that auction site, or even from some e-tailers.
Why? What will happen with 3200?
Because Sandy Bridge is DDR3.
