Deffo, IMO, not matter what, they are always going to struggle with the high end graphics market and the twitchy/FPS gaming marketAs balanced a reply as I can make, it depends on what you're playing.
Strategy/maybe single player RPG and anything less "twitchy", sure. There's absolutely no way they can remove the 20ms+ of round trip ping on EVERY input though. Each mouse movement or keypress will have at least that much latency before you see the response. It's not utterly terrible and there's a tonne of games it won't matter one bit. There's a whole lot of stuff it won't work nice with as well though
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Another thing to do consider on why you should still go with Ryzen (or even Intel) rather than cloud gaming... 1)What happens when you start getting lots of contention on the line 2) what happens when your isp starts restrictions on your line for the massive amounts of data that you are using under 'fair use' clauses?
I think cloud gaming is gonna make video streaming look like the good guy.
Games like fortnite/pubg etc. You are gonna be at a.massive disadvantage with latency.
Network latency comes on top of normal processing etc latencies, like polling rate of keyboard/mouse, at what intervals client sends data to server.
What's the internal fps of game engine is run at etc.
And servers will be running very modest clocked server CPUs.
So total latency will be pretty fast quite horrible for PC gamer.
Then add effects of image compression.
Here's test of basically similar concept.
https://www.engadget.com/2019/02/27/blade-shadow-ghost-game-streaming/
High quality video at anykind higher frame rates will indeed hog bandwidth like there's no tomorrow.
They can't even use more efficient per bitrate two pass encoding.
To be honest I'm far more interested in what clocks the memory can hit on the new Ryzen's over the max clock's the cpu's can get.
2X8GB would do me just fine, thankyou @ 5000 cl17
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I'm 18 and play when I am hungover... i bet I have 200ms latency
pffft, used to play quake 2 online while on dial up on the heat network based in the us, i was getting a good steady 280ms
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The above does not have resources of Google to deliver the offer but I am waiting for the pudding to be proved for Stadia.
Useful.Have people on this forum just forgotten about the 65W TDP Ryzen 7 2700 and 105W TDP Ryzen 7 2700X boost curves at stock?
The Ryzen 7 2700 was 3.2GHZ~4.1GHZ and the Ryzen 7 2700X was 3.7GHZ~4.3GHZ so they looked much closer than they were. The former was closer to its base clockspeed for most workloads and the latter was closer to its max boost clockspeed.
So basically don't expect much from the 3700X; the proper choice is either the 3600X or the 3800X (or better).
That's only a very simple frequency diagram. Show us the actual performance numbers which show that it's worth it to spend a 105W power budget instead of 65W power budget?
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The Ryzen 7 3700X like the Ryzen 7 2700 will be more geared for SFF systems or people who want to overclock. One advantage the Ryzen 7 3700X has is that it has XFR unlike the Ryzen 7 2700,so you should be able to do an auto-overclock with a better cooler which will push it past the 65W TDP barrier,but at stock I would expect the Ryzen 7 3800X to boost much higher.
Regarding the six core parts,it might not be as clear cut.
The Ryzen 5 2600X at best only boosted at best 10% higher than a Ryzen 5 2600. It is why I got a Ryzen 5 2600 as the Ryzen 5 2600X was much more expensive. The same was true of the Ryzen 5 1600 and Ryzen 5 1600X.
It makes sense though as the 6 core parts should be less TDP limited than a part with 1/3 more cores.
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I think it's fairly obvious from that graph that the 3800X is a much better choice than the 3700X. And that maybe the 3600X would be a better choice than the 3700X, for gaming.
Lisa Su herself did say the 3800X would be the gamer's choice. She should know.
I doubt she knows what is the best for me, personally.
What will the UK prices be for the parts - will it be basically the same as $ but in pounds ore will it be like below??
- AMD Ryzen 7 3700X: $329 (about £260, AU$480)
- AMD Ryzen 7 3800X: $399 (about £310, AU$580)
Still Google has little control over internet operators and their traffic routing and especially latency and available bandwidth of end user connection.
Would also have to know actual geographical locations.
Though suspect Finland is going to be one of the places.
In last month Google announced major expansion to one of their datacenters here.