Soldato
Won't happen.
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My guess is as a response to a 10C Intel chip or if sales are good enough save it for 7nm+
Soldato
Why would they need to respond to a 10 core with a 16 core. When they already have a 12 core.
They will save the 16core for Ryzen 4000 mark my words.
Soldato
You mean in gaming? (because it wont be in productivity).I expect the 10 core will be faster than the 12 core
OK, lets assume that is the case.
How exactly will an extra 4 cores help? In gaming?
It wont.
*IF the 10 core Intel part beats the 3900x in gaming then you can be assured it would beat the 16 core part. And again this pours cold water on the theory AMD will release the 16 core part in response to Intel releasing a 10 core.
They did the same right now
released 12 to compete with Intel's 8 (same price). Intel is gonna release 10, AMD 16 to counterpart and to influence minds more=better
Soldato
OK, we will see.They did the same right now
I dont think they will.
They had to release the 12 core because the 9900k already had mindshare. so 8 core vs 8 core wasn't good enough.
The 10 core Intel part by all accounts will be DOA. So AMD's hand won't be forced. AMD have already "won" now. Look at the coverage they are getting.
Soldato
I have no idea how hard it is to see that the 16c will be released as a 3xxx part, why would they make such an effort to ensure that the motherboards that are being released for X570 can supply way more power than required for the 3900X?
Unless of course you are confirming that the Zen3/Ryzen 4xxx will be on AM4 and that the 16c will be the introduced then, making use of the board you bought 12 months ago.
Unless of course you are confirming that the Zen3/Ryzen 4xxx will be on AM4 and that the 16c will be the introduced then, making use of the board you bought 12 months ago.
Soldato
Who is "confirming" anything???
This server is so bad for people trying this BS. Putting words in your mouth. At what point have I indicated I am "confirming" anything???
I. AM. SPECULATING.
nothing more. nothing less.
Soldato
It was a question you failed to bother answering, why they would make boards that are so excessive in power delivery for the 3900X, and you 'speculate' that 16c will only be released with Ryzen 4xxx. So putting both of those things together means that you are 'speculating' that Ryzen 4xxx will be AM4, therefore ensuring that X570 boards are not a complete waste of money for most people.
Associate
Very much VRM overkill even for the 16c OCed.
Unfortunately as BZ said the efficiency kicks in at much higher level as a result.
Still a interesting server grade board though, wonder what the price will be.
Unfortunately as BZ said the efficiency kicks in at much higher level as a result.
Still a interesting server grade board though, wonder what the price will be.
Caporegime
All the mid to high end X570 boards have good VRM's.
It gives me hope that Zen 2 has good overclocking potential, but at a cost of high power draw.
It gives me hope that Zen 2 has good overclocking potential, but at a cost of high power draw.
Soldato
Here's some speculation for you all to consider, and it ties in with the overkill VRM solution which isn't even needed for the 'normal' 16c part.
Next year AMD will shrink the I/O chiplet down to a 7nm part, leaving extra space on the CPU package/PCB, that space could be used to increase the CPU chiplets making them 12c with each CCX being 6c, and thus allowing up to 24 cores on AM4, and the need for these larger than average VRM, also meaning that AM4 has at least one more generation left in it.
I'm starting me a YouTube channel called "LovedAF-TV"
Next year AMD will shrink the I/O chiplet down to a 7nm part, leaving extra space on the CPU package/PCB, that space could be used to increase the CPU chiplets making them 12c with each CCX being 6c, and thus allowing up to 24 cores on AM4, and the need for these larger than average VRM, also meaning that AM4 has at least one more generation left in it.
I'm starting me a YouTube channel called "LovedAF-TV"
Associate
^^
Caporegime
3 Days
Might announce lower end parts. Doubt they announce 16core.
Soldato
It almost already exists, I've used a few of them, R7 2700E's 45w 2.8GHz base, 4.0GHz boost, it was being tested in place of the MIA 35w i9 9900T until it was recently launched the only issue we had with it was the lack of IGPU for the SFF/1U systems, so it was decided that it had no place in the applications we were looking at.
I fully expect a 25-35w part with 8c/16t soon.