AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[DarkHorizon472]

Can everyone stop wanting the 3900 please, there’s not enough to go round and I’ve been waiting since they were first announced

That’s my precious, nasty mr robfosters and your trixy ways

 

[Martini1991]

to be honest the only thing i really want today would be the board if the cpu's are in short supply i dont mind waiting but if i could get a cpu today i would also

They're not shipping them today from OCUK anyway.
It makes no difference that they're in stock tomorrow.

 

[DonforEuropa]

Patiently awaiting 3600
Product
Availability
Quantity
Unit price
Total value

MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC (Socket AM4) DDR4 ATX Motherboard
Stock Code MB-33S-MS
£119.99*

be quiet! System Power 9 600W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply
Stock Code CA-136-BQ
£64.99*

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-24000C15 3000MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black (CMK16GX4M2B30
£79.99*

Crucial MX500 500GB 3D NAND Sata PCIe M.2 Solid State Drive
Stock Code HD-06E-CR
£59.99*

MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ventus XS OC 6144MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card
Stock Code GX-355-MS
£218.99*

 

[keyser]

Outside of the criminally optimistic that was clear looking at the 9900k reviews when it released. In some games/engines the 9900k was quite a bit ahead and in some games the Ryzen close or slightly better. Maybe they have something up their sleeves we haven't seen yet.

Ryzen has been great for the market but we are now 3 gens in and they are still only about level with Intel's creaking architecture. At least they have Intel scratching their heads again which can only be good for the market.

Yup, I'm put off buying i9 because its almost a year old already. Put off by Zen2 because.. I don't actually need more cores yet. I'm waiting for the new games (Cyberpunk, Bethesda etc) and waiting for the right 4K monitor to come out before big CPU upgrade.

Intel's next line of CPUs should be called Diminishing Returns (10nm). I'd totally buy it.

 

[wookiee87]

They're not shipping them today from OCUK anyway.
It makes no difference that they're in stock tomorrow.

but to have secured one and know its on the way is nice XD

 

[five8five]

A competitor in the UK are advertising they have 46 in stock for Ryzen 5 3600.

Yeah saw that and only the 3600 is listed as in stock. All SKU above 3600 1-3 days.

 

[B1gbeard]

Yup, I'm put off buying i9 because its almost a year old already. Put off by Zen2 because.. I don't actually need more cores yet. I'm waiting for the new games (Cyberpunk, Bethesda etc) and waiting for the right 4K monitor to come out before big CPU upgrade.

Intel's next line of CPUs should be called Diminishing Returns (10nm). I'd totally buy it.

AMD were actually pretty awesome at E3 with this when they said we are competitive when comparing it to a 9900k. Even then some people still seem to be expecting it to trample the 9900k even when AMD themselves were very honest.

We are still in diminishing returns generally across the CPU market. AMD have done great to catch up but outside of cores, which for gaming at the moment has as a small impact, there has been no big performance leap.

 

[Jokester]

To me this smells like a last minute re-spin, any confirmation of stepping details or if they have changed?

 

[DonforEuropa]

Yeah saw that and only the 3600 is listed as in stock. All SKU above 3600 1-3 days.

Which retailer as I found 46 not currently available for sale.
Are there Uk 3600's available to order (I don't mind a few days)

 

[keyser]

AMD were actually pretty awesome at E3 with this when they said we are competitive when comparing it to a 9900k. Even then some people still seem to be expecting it to trample the 9900k even when AMD themselves were very honest.

We are still in diminishing returns generally across the CPU market. AMD have done great to catch up but outside of cores, which for gaming at the moment has as a small impact, there has been no big performance leap.

Yes I don't think its an issue of company X being lazy I think its a more fundamental issue of trying to find ways of making silicon go faster. Each company has their own spin on how to say 'we're great' when its fact its 1-5% quicker/ball park.

 

[Zoroaster]

That's a workstation board (ECC memory etc) so it's understandable it's quite "muted".

That just means it supports EEC memory, doesn't it. You can use the board like any other board ?

 

[keyser]

Gamers Nexus page isn't loading properly.. too many F5s

 

[z10m]

Which of Intel's 6 cores is in the same price bracket?

The 9400F ...

 

[DylRicho]

I thought that is the all core boost of i7 8700k? No?

4.30 GHz is the all-core turbo, unless MCE is enabled, in which case it's 4.70 GHz.

Which of Intel's 6 cores is in the same price bracket?

There isn't one. The 9600K is $100 cheaper. The equivalent would be the 9700 non-K for $330.

 

[five8five]

Which retailer as I found 46 not currently available for sale.
Are there Uk 3600's available to order (I don't mind a few days)

Can't say as it's a competitor. 2.00 pm UK time for ordering.

 

[awaybreaktoday]

 

[Drollic]

Possible AMD listed the 3800x as the pick for gaming due to the 12 core boosting lower sustained due to temperature I wonder.

 

[beany_bot]

Possible AMD listed the 3800x as the pick for gaming due to the 12 core boosting lower sustained due to temperature I wonder.

This is main concern. Im ready to buy 3900x.... but 3800x might be better in games!

 

[Drollic]

This is main concern. Im ready to buy 3900x.... but 3800x might be better in games!

280mm aio with good paste minimum I'd say, and it won't be on silent/quiet mode.

 

[beany_bot]

Not to put too fine a point on it or that anyone cares but I had a Colonoscopy this morning with no sedation or pain medication. Was all clear, but that was horrendous. So I am VERY feeling in the mindset of treating myself to Zen2.