AMD Zen 2 (Ryzen 3000) - *** NO COMPETITOR HINTING ***

[Nghtmare]

Well... I've bought a motherboard.

Still not bought a CPU. Im waiting for 3800x reviews. I'm not sure what I want yet.

I pulled the trigger on the 3800X and a X570 Taichi.

 

[Kashinoda]

Don't forget to factor in a cooler for the 9700k, you get one with the 3700x

If you add a decent cooler to the 9700k you can overclock it a fair amount too, so if you're factoring that into the price then you need to account for the additional extra performance from OC.

 

[Zernath]

Got a Taichi. (Elsewhere). Pricing seemed too good to be true

Ditto. Hopefully they'll honour it at that price, I guess we'll see!

3600 is the sweet spot.

Difference between it and 3200 as seen thus far in reviews is minimal.

Buy decent 3600 if you want to be in a position to run at or close to the maximum 1:1 Infinity Fabric divider. Anything more pushes you into a 2:1 divider which by all accounts does not look worth it.

Thanks, any recommendations as to the brand?

 

[razorpakk]

Don't forget to factor in a cooler for the 9700k, you get one with the 3700x

Already have a Dark Rock Pro 4, thanks for reminding me though!

 

[z10m]

AMD "Ryzen" and Overclocking in the same sentence isn't a thing anymore, apart from those that wear funny costumes and have nice BIG cooling>

That's why I want to see gaming performance comparison of lest say 3900X Vs 9900K.
We know that Ryzen 2 has 0 overclocking potential but that's not the case with 9900K.
Performance difference in games will be then different I bet.

 

[opethdisciple]

Do we know why the x570 boards are so much more expensive than previous gens?

 

[Zeed]

Additional stock arrives tomorrow. So no need to worry.

Those on this thread saying everyone has plenty on stock for Sunday where talking nonsense...

You got Some small 8 pack topic going on new toys ?? Would love th have a link/read if so Thanks Cant wait to bite on this myself hehe

If it goes for IF situation I expected that. It's same IMC that Zen 1 and Zen+ uses just new revision. And that's Rambus technology if I remember correct. And Yes It's shame taht IF holds those CPUS back I was hoping 1 chiplet is 1x8core ccx after it came out that its 2xccx i knew not to expect MAGIC with IMC outside ect.

 

[z10m]

720p garbage, yes yes i know takes the gpu out of the equation... load of ass...
Bench at what folk play at, no bugger uses 720p and i don't care for the excuses, its simply a rubbish test.

No it's not.
You can test with let's say 2080ti at 1080p or with 2060 at 720p which will probably give you similar resoult.
Not everyone has 2080ti on hand to test .

 

[Legend]

Do we know why the x570 boards are so much more expensive than previous gens?

They said they would be. More engineering and less budget oriented. They see this platform as more high end.

 

[Nghtmare]

Do we know why the x570 boards are so much more expensive than previous gens?

PCIE 4, 8 layer PCB, overall better VRM design

 

[z10m]

They're the same as the non overclocked ones....

That's the case for Ryzen 2 but not Intel 9th gen.

 

[IT Troll]

In the hardware unboxed review the thing that stuck out to me was how often hyperthreading hurt the 9900k vs the 9700k in gaming.

Anyone else noticed that?

I've spoken about this several times on these forums, but then a salesman will come along and repeat the Intel marketing that the 9900K is the gamer's choice. In reality it is 50/50 whether HT will help or hurt gaming performance.

 

[jigger]

prices on motherboard are stupid.

First crazy ram prices, then crazy graphics cards prices and then crazy Motherboard prices.

The're not that bad, sure each manufacture has it's "master race" range, but Ive seen some gems.

 

[Dirk Diggler]

What's the gamer's choice if budget is not a factor; 3900x or would this be more suited to productivity due to extra cores? Also, what's the performance increase versus a 2700x (again, gaming orientated)?

Reviews are top heavy with info, but I'm looking to have it simplified by those more knowledgeable than me (yes, that's you! )

TIA

 

[Kashinoda]

There still a fair bit of work to do with the Windows scheduler it seems.

1% lows seem to drop significantly in multi-thread friendly Battlefield V:
https://youtu.be/z3aEv3EzMyQ?t=417

It seems loading one die/chiplet massively improves this. As the multi-threaded trend continues for gaming I hope this can be addressed.

 

[Zeed]

PCIE 4, 8 layer PCB, overall better VRM design

Gigabyte added VRM's instead of LED's so thats a good direction

 

[Temi_D]

ASRock X570 Taichi + Ryzen 7 3700X ordered, now I just need to settle on the RAM. So, 3200MHz or 3600MHz, what's worth it, what's not?

Doesn't seem to be worth the premium https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-zen-2-memory-performance-scaling-benchmark/

Got a Taichi. (Elsewhere). Pricing seemed too good to be true

The pre-order one?

 

[opethdisciple]

Also 3700x vs 3800x? We expect the 3800x to boost at higher maintained speeds due to higher TDP?

 

[Sin_Chase]

What's the gamer's choice if budget is not a factor; 3900x or would this be more suited to productivity due to extra cores? Also, what's the performance increase versus a 2700x (again, gaming orientated)?

Reviews are top heavy with info, but I'm looking to have it simplified by those more knowledgeable than me (yes, that's you! )

TIA

If budget is not a concern then get the 3900x. Early info reveals limited overclocking headroom and the 3700x does not appear to have a core clock advantage over the 3900x such that it beats it out in gaming.

 

[hyperseven]

Bought a x570 TaiChi as price is too good but might wait for the 3950x or wait to see what the Amazon USA prices are since have $40 store credit.

Then again may sick with my 8700K as it can do 5Ghz all cores all day day long