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[M4YON]

That would be your decision, you can add additional access points if you like.

You may find a single AC-Lite is sufficient, you may not. It'll depend on the size of the property, building materials and so on.

you can have as many AC-Lite's or other model UAP's as you like.

Sorry I understand that I can have more than one AP but i was under the impression that the router would cover the wireless downstairs and the AP would cover upstairs.

Is one AP going to be enough to cover the entire house? Is it an upgrade on my current Superhub 3 or will I need to get another AP and have one per floor?

 

[Steveocee]

Sorry I understand that I can have more than one AP but i was under the impression that the router would cover the wireless downstairs and the AP would cover upstairs.
Is one AP going to be enough to cover the entire house? Is it an upgrade on my current Superhub 3 or will I need to get another AP and have one per floor?

I have a single UAP-AC-Pro which covers my entire 1930's built 4 bed semi. An AC-LR was doing the duty beforehand just as well.

 

[M4YON]

I have a single UAP-AC-Pro which covers my entire 1930's built 4 bed semi. An AC-LR was doing the duty beforehand just as well.

Interesting and you have no black spot, dropouts or slow speeds anywhere in your house?

Where have you located your AP? if you don't mind me asking.

 

[DIABLO]

Sorry I understand that I can have more than one AP but i was under the impression that the router would cover the wireless downstairs and the AP would cover upstairs.

Is one AP going to be enough to cover the entire house? Is it an upgrade on my current Superhub 3 or will I need to get another AP and have one per floor?

For the best experience especially roaming from one AP to another people generally recommend turning off the WiFi on other manufacturers devices and turning other WiFi duty to Unifi.

 

[Mariusz]

@M4YON I can Echo @Steveocee experience, I've got a single NanoHD installed on the ceiling of the upstairs landing of a 4 bed detached and it covers the full house. I did have a 2nd NanoHD installed on the ceiling between the living/dining room and kitchen but I found it wasn't needed. I'm only on Openreach FTTC but I get full speed throughout the house.

 

[Steveocee]

Interesting and you have no black spot, dropouts or slow speeds anywhere in your house?

Where have you located your AP? if you don't mind me asking.

Mine is located absolute top dead centre of my attic.

I run a minimum RSSI of -75 (so no bad connections) with power on high and medium for 5G and 2.4G respectively.

No drops, no slow downs, entire house covered with probably 20+ devices.

 

[WJA96]

That’s an interesting way of looking at it. I’m in a different game (part of what I do is install WLAN in high-end homes) and I just put an in-wall access point in every room for 5GHz coverage (low power ) and I map out the ceiling mounted locations for AP-AC-HD for 2.4GHz coverage (high power) so that they never cross more than one wall and/or one floor. I set the 2.4GHz RSSI to -60dBi and the 5GHz RSSI to -50dBi and everyone always gets tree-top tall signal everywhere they go in the house. By setting up the various features (modern devices, airtime fairness and soft-kick) people seamlessly move their WLAN from one room to another. I also make sure that anything that can be cabled is cabled to keep the WLAN as clear as possible.

The only exception is for VOIP - if they want VOIP mobiles then I will relax the 2.4GHz RSSI to -70dBi to stop dropped connections but generally it’s not an issue.

 

[the-evaluator]

Sorry I understand that I can have more than one AP but i was under the impression that the router would cover the wireless downstairs and the AP would cover upstairs.

Which router are you going for? As I already said, none of the Edge routers have a built in access point. Same for the USG routers too, no access point.

Is one AP going to be enough to cover the entire house? Is it an upgrade on my current Superhub 3 or will I need to get another AP and have one per floor?

Dunno. I don't know how big your house is, what it's made of, where you're planning to put the access point and so on. Why not start with a single AP and then if you need another, get another. That's what I did although I started with 2 and then bought a third.

Also, rather than buying a new router you could disable the wireless on the SH3 but keep it doing all the routing and install an AC-Lite and run it that way.

 

[peterwalkley]

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Dunno. I don't know how big your house is, what it's made of, where you're planning to put the access point and so on. Why not start with a single AP and then if you need another, get another. That's what I did although I started with 2 and then bought a third.

Also, rather than buying a new router you could disable the wireless on the SH3 but keep it doing all the routing and install an AC-Lite and run it that way.

This is good advice. I did the same 3 years ago with an AC-Pro and it really has been set-and-forget. I bought one, installed in the cupboard under the stairs (hard-wired from the SH2), disabled Wifi on the SH2 and never looked back. I was lucky in that I only needed one as the location is central and my house (4 bed detached) internal walls are all plasterboard. Signal isn't a problem anywhere, so I never needed to expand to a second. Coverage outside is very limited, but that is exactly how I wanted it - someone needs to be on the property to connect.

 

[DIABLO]

That’s an interesting way of looking at it. I’m in a different game (part of what I do is install WLAN in high-end homes) and I just put an in-wall access point in every room for 5GHz coverage (low power ) and I map out the ceiling mounted locations for AP-AC-HD for 2.4GHz coverage (high power) so that they never cross more than one wall and/or one floor. I set the 2.4GHz RSSI to -60dBi and the 5GHz RSSI to -50dBi and everyone always gets tree-top tall signal everywhere they go in the house. By setting up the various features (modern devices, airtime fairness and soft-kick) people seamlessly move their WLAN from one room to another. I also make sure that anything that can be cabled is cabled to keep the WLAN as clear as possible.

The only exception is for VOIP - if they want VOIP mobiles then I will relax the 2.4GHz RSSI to -70dBi to stop dropped connections but generally it’s not an issue.

What do you use for Routers in your high end installations?

 

[WJA96]

I was using mainly USG-4P but now I’m mainly running Untangle on Supermicro 1U server appliances. It’s a fantastic platform and for £35-£50/year you get an awful lot of functionality. If the customer is price sensitive or wants site to site VPN tunnels (for office to home office or they want to watch Bundesliga auf Deutsch streamed from a house in Germany) then I’ve switched to the MikroTik RB4011.

 

[M4YON]

Mine is located absolute top dead centre of my attic.

I run a minimum RSSI of -75 (so no bad connections) with power on high and medium for 5G and 2.4G respectively.

No drops, no slow downs, entire house covered with probably 20+ devices.

Thanks for the reply and help this seems the way I'm probably going to go.

Which router are you going for? As I already said, none of the Edge routers have a built in access point. Same for the USG routers too, no access point.



Dunno. I don't know how big your house is, what it's made of, where you're planning to put the access point and so on. Why not start with a single AP and then if you need another, get another. That's what I did although I started with 2 and then bought a third.

Also, rather than buying a new router you could disable the wireless on the SH3 but keep it doing all the routing and install an AC-Lite and run it that way.

The plan was to place the SH3 into modem only mode and get a 3rd party router and then have a AC-Pro wired through the attic and situated on the upstairs landing, essentially the central point of my home.

It's a standard 3 bedroom semi walls are mainly plasterboard. I'm just trying to figure out which setup would be best for my home.

My issue is the edgerouter (3lite and 4) only have 3 ethernet ports ideally I'd like to have at least 2 free to be able to hardwire 2 devices. If I need a second AP after I've bought the first and set it up, I'd be in a pickle.

Therefore my choice of router has to be correct, don't want to buy something and then need to replace it. I was just trying to gauge how powerful one AP is and if it would cover my entire house without issues.

I was also originally under the impression the edgerouter was a wireless router that would essentially cover the wireless downstairs whilst the AC-pro would cover upstairs. I have since been corrected.

 

[M4YON]

@M4YON I can Echo @Steveocee experience, I've got a single NanoHD installed on the ceiling of the upstairs landing of a 4 bed detached and it covers the full house. I did have a 2nd NanoHD installed on the ceiling between the living/dining room and kitchen but I found it wasn't needed. I'm only on Openreach FTTC but I get full speed throughout the house.

Appreciate the feedback, hoping one AC-Pro will cover the house with speeds as close as possible to full (VM200Mb)

 

[WJA96]

Appreciate the feedback, hoping one AC-Pro will cover the house with speeds as close as possible to full (VM200Mb)

AP-AC-Pro offers no real befits over the AP-AC-LR as you never really get to use the 3-chain option unless all your clients are 3-chain. The instant you connect a 1-chain or 2-chain client it drops to 1 or 2 chain operation for all clients.

The AP-AC-LR is cheaper and has better range. The AP-HD-nano has the same improved range of the AP-AC-LR but offers MIMO throughput so you can connect multiple clients to the access point simultaneously. So I would suggest save money and get the LR or spend a bit more for the performance gains of the HD unit.

 

[M4YON]

AP-AC-Pro offers no real befits over the AP-AC-LR as you never really get to use the 3-chain option unless all your clients are 3-chain. The instant you connect a 1-chain or 2-chain client it drops to 1 or 2 chain operation for all clients.

The AP-AC-LR is cheaper and has better range. The AP-HD-nano has the same improved range of the AP-AC-LR but offers MIMO throughput so you can connect multiple clients to the access point simultaneously. So I would suggest save money and get the LR or spend a bit more for the performance gains of the HD unit.

Thank you, I think the LR maybe the best option for me based on your input. After all I'm only running 14 devices on my home network and 2 of those are wired. As long as they can all reach close to maximum speed without dropouts, I'll be a happy bunny.

 

[Steveocee]

I was using mainly USG-4P but now I’m mainly running Untangle on Supermicro 1U server appliances. It’s a fantastic platform and for £35-£50/year you get an awful lot of functionality. If the customer is price sensitive or wants site to site VPN tunnels (for office to home office or they want to watch Bundesliga auf Deutsch streamed from a house in Germany) then I’ve switched to the MikroTik RB4011.

I've just switched my CHR over into untangle over night. Very impressed so far even with the free packages. Will likely be buying the hinge pro license.

 

[WJA96]

Yes, another often overlooked capability of MikroTik RouterOS is the ability to run Layer 7 Security. I’ve not got Untangle running on anything MikroTik myself but it’s something that’s high on my list to try.

 

[deano-g]

Hey, after some advice. I have an edge router 4 and I'm struggling to connect to internet with fttp. With the fttc with virgin I used their hub in modem mode and used dhcp.
Now the fttp supplier has give me a pppoe user and password, which I input as eth 0 and an static ip, which i have setup on the other ports. I've set the windows ip the same as all other ports but not getting any internet.
I've also tried to use dhcp on the ports and left windows setting to manually find ip to no avail. I'm currently using the router they sent but I'd prefer to use router I have any input greatly appreciated.

Sorry about the long winded post.

 

[Steveocee]

Hey, after some advice. I have an edge router 4 and I'm struggling to connect to internet with fttp. With the fttc with virgin I used their hub in modem mode and used dhcp.
Now the fttp supplier has give me a pppoe user and password, which I input as eth 0 and an static ip, which i have setup on the other ports. I've set the windows ip the same as all other ports but not getting any internet.
I've also tried to use dhcp on the ports and left windows setting to manually find ip to no avail. I'm currently using the router they sent but I'd prefer to use router I have any input greatly appreciated.

Sorry about the long winded post.

You need to create a pppoe client on your wan Ethernet port and remove anything static. Likely you've set a static radius server and the ISP will have more then one.

 

[Caged]

Use the EdgeRouter PPPoE wizard to set your connection up. You don't need to enter a static IP address anywhere - you will get assigned it via PPPoE.