The Guardian's Owen Jones attacked outside London pub in a premeditated assault.

[Irish_Tom]

Andy NGO did not suffer brain damage, his legal team had to remove that claim from his statement because it was inaccurate.

Have you got a source for this? I can’t find anything. Also was it specifically brain damage that he had to remove or the whole claim of a brain bleed/haemorrhage?

Shortly after the attack he went on Joe Rogan and said that he was having speech and memory issues and was going to have to see a therapist for the foreseeable future — is that all debunked now?

He also never got chemical burns from concrete milkshake, that was complete nonsense spread by blaggers on twitter. Amazing the stuff people will believe just because they want to believe it.

You’re quite right, but it doesn’t negate the fact that he was brutally assaulted.

There’s simply no justification for it.

 

[Caracus2k]

People are trying to equal Jones to people like Tommy Robinson or that Spencer. Talking about his 'dangerous ideologies' lol. Really... When he talks about white Europe, removing Muslims from countries, ethnic cleansing et al I'll hold my hands up and admit he's dangerous. For now, as stated he's a champagne socialist media luvvy with a very punchable face. It does not make it ok though.

Jesus, being involved in this thread and clicking through to some of those Twitter links really do prove we're ****ed

Can we take that as a tacit admission that you previous claim

'there's still no evidence that he has condoned or supported violence against anyone'

Was a load of rubbish then?

Unfortunately for Jones the Internet doesn't forget and it appears that he may have outed his true views many years ago...

In a workers' state, of course, Fascism would not have such soft treatment. Fascist propaganda would be banned. Fascists would have no participation in any elections. Fascist acts would be punished with death. Those people with illusions in Fascism would be sent to corrective facilities until they repent their beliefs. I think it would be sensible to deport all Fascist leaders to an offshore island prison somewhere, to prevent any becoming martyrs and to remove them as a threat to the workers' state. As Trotskyo nce said, if one cannot make a fascist repent its beliefs through reasonable argument, one should feel free to acquaint its head with the pavement. (Though such measures must be prevented being used by any
bureaucratic regime in the event of a degeneration of a workers' state against progressives who are not fascist...as has been the case in the past).

 

[Caracus2k]

Of course Jones has the usual rather wide interpretation of what consistutes 'facism'....

Which includes the current president of the US

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1151791156122046464

People who think that neighbours shouldn't spy on and report their neighbours non criminal domestic arguments to the press for poltical reasons

And

People who think protestors storming private events should not be stopped and removed using force

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1142803343741296640

Anybody on the end of an assault by a thrown milkshake (as long as the thower is on the 'left' presumably)

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1129774913185882112

And UKIP....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1121760556447301632

 

[VincentHanna]

Unfortunately for Jones the Internet doesn't forget and it appears that he may have outed his true views many years ago...

Again, I don't have a dog in the fight as I don't really read or watch anything Owen Jones is involved with

But he was 16 in 2000.

I'm pretty sure his views as a teenager aren't applicable.

 

[Caracus2k]

Again, I don't have a dog in the fight as I don't really read or watch anything Owen Jones is involved with

But he was 16 in 2000.

I'm pretty sure his views as a teenager aren't applicable.

I'm sure he's leant in the meantime that openly calling for your political opponents to be exterminated doesn't get you very far until your 'side' is in a powerful position.

Given his far more recent reluctance to condemn political violence against his opponents and given that he apparently supports it I'm not that inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt.....

 

[dowie]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/897599759439056897

That tweet didn't age well! I guess he quite deliberately didn't post a comment promoting violence, obviously didn't condemn it either. If he deletes it now then it would more likely amplify the fact it was there to begin with.

 

[Angilion]

Andy NGO did not suffer brain damage, his legal team had to remove that claim from his statement because it was innacuate, he also never got chemical burns from concrete milkshake, that was complete nonsense spread by blaggers on twitter. Amazing the stuff people will believe just because they want to believe it.

He apparently had a subarachnoid hemorrhage as a result of traumatic head injury. That's damage to the brain, but not brain damage. It might be more accurate to say that it's English that is inaccurate.

The idea that people added cement powder (not concrete) to a liquid used as a weapon is not "complete nonsense". Take a look at safety notes for cement - it does cause chemical burns. His face was injured. The claim might be wrong (or it might be right - I don't know), but it isn't "complete nonsense".

Regardless of details, the attack on Andy NGO was obviously far more serious than the attack on Owen Jones. Andy NGO was injured and could have been killed. Owen Jones wasn't.

 

[V F]

@Caracus2k That tweet is official from Burgerking and it was actually related to the milkshake incident?

 

[Em3bbs]

Considering Owen Jones said they came at him with military precision he's looking pretty untouched. And I'm sure if any of his friends had been hurt he'd have been putting photos all over Twitter. Something smells funny here.

 

[V F]

Considering Owen Jones said they came at hime with military precision he's looking pretty untouched. And I'm sure if any of his friends had been hurt he'd have been putting photos all over Twitter. Something smells funny here.

He works for the press. He's going to have many contacts to back him.

 

[Caracus2k]

@Caracus2k That tweet is official from Burgerking and it was actually related to the milkshake incident?

The tweet came from an official Burger King twitter account and was in response to news that McDonald's were suspending sales of milkshakes in some restaurants after a spate of incidents of them being thrown at people in the euro election campaigning period.

 

[VincentHanna]

The tweet came from an official Burger King twitter account and was in response to news that McDonald's were suspending sales of milkshakes in some restaurants after a spate of incidents of them being thrown at people in the euro election campaigning period.

Not quite accurate.

It came in response the Scottish police requesting one specific McDonalds, nearby to where Nigel Farage was hosting a speech/rally, stop selling milkshakes and ice creams for a few hours, on one day.

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...s-to-halt-milkshake-sales-during-farage-rally

 

[C64]

Owen Jones is the fascist

 

[dowie]

It seems like everyone is a fascist these days.

 

[Caracus2k]

He's more of a larping revolutionary socialist

 

[V F]

The tweet came from an official Burger King twitter account and was in response to news that McDonald's were suspending sales of milkshakes in some restaurants after a spate of incidents of them being thrown at people in the euro election campaigning period.

When I first read it this evening it looked, peeps we've got milkshakes go nuts with them!

 

[VincentHanna]

No, just good social media marketing.

 

[Efour]

It seems like everyone is a fascist these days.

Gone are the days when Hitler and Mussolini were fascists. Nowdays .....
Im a fascist now because i think countries should be able to regulate their borders if they deem it necessary. (i still am not exactly onboard with Brexit, but its happening get over it, Make the best of it.)
Im a fascist if illegal immigrants to the US are put into "extermination camps" why they try to ascertain their identity and legality.
I dont believe there are 52 different genders.
etc, etc to oblivion.
Social media needs to die so humans can go back to being less polarised and manipulated by very small vocal groups of real radicals.

 

[Myaniad]

Im quite surprised he hasn't had a slap before.

 

[chroniclard]

I know now who Owen Jones is after seeing the news.