BMW/Audi drivers surpassed?

Liquidfox said:
I was well aware of the speed limit, I just chose not to follow it and paid the price :p
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:P

My other half attended one as she is a fellow speed demon. Some of the things she relayed to me we're actually very interesting. Things like the random drop to 40 on some motorways during the night is to cut down on noise pollution for homes nearby. And how traffic buildup is made worse by people constantly changing lanes and/or being right up the chuff of the car Infront. Some good info that sadly some will only learn as a result of a lead foot.
 
Conscript said:
Because we had several requirements for the car when we were looking, and some of the requirements meant that the car we chose was, by simple virtue of physical design, higher riding than most. I have said before, I don't particularly like owning an SUV, I would actually prefer an estate car. But at the time of looking, I couldn't find an estate that would tow what we needed and also be able to handle light off road use on a semi-regular basis. Unfortunately, it seems that the car that fulfilled that role best happened to be...an SUV.

The fact that the driving position is higher is immaterial to me - I have only pointed out the advantages that I have noticed as a result in response to your continual claim that I, or others like me, only chose it out of a superiority complex. I didn't and I wouldn't go out of my way to choose a higher driving position, but I am offering the alternative reasons to why such a position can be attractive other than "because ego", now that I've experienced it.



The point is that they aren't excuses, Dis. They are just reasons in response to what seems to be an irrational hatred. You don't like SUVs, that's fine, but I don't see why you go out of your way to berate their owners so much.

A question...for you and others who've said this....why does someone choosing an SUV annoy you so, but an MPV, which is hardly much smaller, seem fine?
You can say they are better on fuel, or handling, etc, but really, if the owner chooses and SUV over an MPV, why does it matter to you?
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I'll address the irrational part.
It's perfectly rational. The reason that this thread exists shows another poster clearly thinks the same.
Many that drive them are absolute buffoons. Now, unfortunately, there's nothing we can do about these buffoons but - as per, I think, one of my links - if these people were in smaller vehicles the results of any accidents they cause would be 3x less likely to result in the fatality of another party.
Additionally, as highlighted by one of my links, people who drive smaller vehicles are safer drivers in general and less likely to have an accident in the first place. Partially because they're more cautious.
I'm a big fan of road safety. I'm also a big fan of not endangering the lives of other people. Unfortunately SUVs completely go against this.

Secondly, where I live we have a lot of country roads which are great for the other cars you and I own. Unfortunately these are now frequently blocked by SUVs that are too wide or heavily restrict vision. I can accept tractors, wagons and pickups do the same but that's because the people that use those vehicles are doing so for practical reasons. Unfortunately people like my parents own an SUV for no practical reasons whatsoever. My parents fall in to the categories we've discussed in this thread.
I've already mentioned the issue of visibility at junctions.
There's the increased fuel usage and associated environmental impact.
 
Can't understand the mentality of anyone who gets annoyed by the type of cars others choose to buy. I can totally understand not wanting one for yourself, but I can honestly say it's never crossed my mind to look at any type of car on the road and think "I wish people wouldn't buy those".
 
geekman said:
Can't understand the mentality of anyone who gets annoyed by the type of cars others choose to buy. I can totally understand not wanting one for yourself, but I can honestly say it's never crossed my mind to look at any type of car on the road and think "I wish people wouldn't buy those".
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I agree, unless it's a Mazda Bongo Friendee. I wish people wouldn't buy those. Then I wouldn't have to look at them.
 
Howard said:
It's infuriating following someone who is constantly being "courteous" like that. Just get on with it, stop interrupting the flow of traffic and causing potentially confusing or dangerous situations, and let the system flow as it should!
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As much as i will say i do tend to let people out, the being over courteous does really wind me up. Especially now living in the city, if you suddenly decide to let every other person out, you'll end up doubling your journey times.

The only times you should really be letting people out is when the flow of traffic has stopped, if the traffic is currently flowing, then they have to wait a short while for it to stop. In fact there are routes to/from my home where i will deliberately take a slightly longer route in order to say turn left to move with the flow of traffic, rather than turning right and having to cross two lanes. The number of people who don't do this and then have to sit there for quite a while until there is a gap in both directions.
 
tamzzy said:
case in point...fiat 500X :D

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Scary as hell. Thing is the car makes no diff, that moron would have done the same (incorrect) no matter what they were driving and practically nothing would have enough acceleration that the driver of the car we were watching the came from would not have been in danger.

It happens on slip roads of course every day, people who get up to about 40 mph then stop accelerating. Morons.
 
Semple said:
As much as i will say i do tend to let people out, the being over courteous does really wind me up. Especially now living in the city, if you suddenly decide to let every other person out, you'll end up doubling your journey times.

The only times you should really be letting people out is when the flow of traffic has stopped, if the traffic is currently flowing, then they have to wait a short while for it to stop. In fact there are routes to/from my home where i will deliberately take a slightly longer route in order to say turn left to move with the flow of traffic, rather than turning right and having to cross two lanes. The number of people who don't do this and then have to sit there for quite a while until there is a gap in both directions.
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Thats exactly how I do it. If I am stopped then I will let someone out from a side road, or if a pedestrian is trying to cross and its clear from the other direction then I will as said let them cross.
I dont stop to let people out, thats a bit daft, but I do see some people doing it. I never got the logic of that one, if the traffic is flowing they will get to go sooner or later by default.

I actually rely on others letting me out as well daily on the journey home, I leave one main road, down a side road to join another main road. Just along that road is a set of lights, if no one let any of us out of the side road during rush hour it would back right up and start affecting the other main road. If everyone tried to stop anyone getting out, and these people do exist, then eventually people from the side road would start getting dangerous forcing their way out.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Scary as hell. Thing is the car makes no diff, that moron would have done the same (incorrect) no matter what they were driving and practically nothing would have enough acceleration that the driver of the car we were watching the came from would not have been in danger.

It happens on slip roads of course every day, people who get up to about 40 mph then stop accelerating. Morons.
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It should be part of the test. Anyone who doesn't match speed with traffic on a slip road before merging = fail.
 
Nasher said:
It should be part of the test. Anyone who doesn't match speed with traffic on a slip road before merging = fail.
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This seems a bit unfair on people with slow cars, such as the Toyota GT86, trying to join dual carriageways at very short sliproads.
 
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