Thanks, pretty much what I've already realised. I have some of the colored elite ones. This it for the OHs Liv
Thanks, pretty much what I've already realised. I have some of the colored elite ones. This it for the OHs Liv
My OH is 5"11 and the Propels were too big. Also, they came in black or black as opposed to the full array of colours offered by Liv. A womans Liv Large is a Giant Mens Medium with obvious contact point differences. I find this choice for your OH alarming. That and the fact she thinks it's heavy. The Liv Langma is incredibly light.
@Roady thanks, could you share please? Spares would be handy.
I’m sorry that you’re so alarmed. As mentioned previously, it was her decision.
edit: the 7.13kg Liv langma is £4300!
I’m unsure too! It fits, she’s faster on it, it’s heavier than my tcr. Can’t see the issue!Dont see why riding a 'mens' Giant over a ladies 'Liv' is alarming. As long as the bike fits, everything is ok, right? I guess there is a question over 700c vs 650b but Id guess that is a slightly separate issue.
https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https://www.ebay.co.uk/ulk/itm/153756838086Can't see them now but also not 100% sure who/where they where. Will have a scout around later and confirm they've been removed...
The Langma is the eqivilient of the TCR isn't it? Isn't the Envie the equivilent to the Propel, so the one you mean? My other half has an Avail and that's the Defy.I’m sorry that you’re so alarmed. As mentioned previously, it was her decision.
edit: the 7.13kg Liv langma is £4300!
Think he was more alarmed that the difference in weight was so large, not the fact she was riding a 'mens'. It's a totally common thing and I've always swung both ways (lol). On one hand, having a womens orientated frame with different contact points (wider saddle, narrower bars, shorter stem etc) is great, like Giant do, they even have different brand names with totally different decals designs and colours. Then on the other hand, like Specialized, have no different women brands, just offer their usual frames in a wider range of sizes (& configurations). I still can't really 'decide' which I prefer.Dont see why riding a 'mens' Giant over a ladies 'Liv' is alarming. As long as the bike fits, everything is ok, right? I guess there is a question over 700c vs 650b but Id guess that is a slightly separate issue.
The only issue I see is some of the womens colour options are far better than the mens!I’m unsure too! It fits, she’s faster on it, it’s heavier than my tcr. Can’t see the issue!
The Langma is the eqivilient of the TCR isn't it? Isn't the Envie the equivilent to the Propel, so the one you mean? My other half has an Avail and that's the Defy.
Or am I getting confused and they've swiched/changed the names around over the last few years?
Think he was more alarmed that the difference in weight was so large, not the fact she was riding a 'mens'. It's a totally common thing and I've always swung both ways (lol). On one hand, having a womens orientated frame with different contact points (wider saddle, narrower bars, shorter stem etc) is great, like Giant do, they even have different brand names with totally different decals designs and colours. Then on the other hand, like Specialized, have no different women brands, just offer their usual frames in a wider range of sizes (& configurations). I still can't really 'decide' which I prefer.
700c vs 650b is a valid poiint but only at the lower end of the sizing, I'm sure I read somewhere that some mens small TT bikes came with 650b? Sure I read Quintana rode one? Or am I just thinking about the Quintana Roo TT bike?
The only issue I see is some of the womens colour options are far better than the mens!
The only issue I see is some of the womens colour options are far better than the mens!
She ordered 18 Large pizzas. It must have been delivered by a whole peloton/fleet of JustEat Jonny's.
Haha, you can do that?! I like the idea of pizza fuelled JustEat pizza delivery men. Like some kind of perpetual motion machine!Just smashed a double pack of Jaffa Cakes, winter is hard.
Haha, you can do that?! I like the idea of pizza fuelled JustEat pizza delivery men. Like some kind of perpetual motion machine!
Todays comsumption at work: 8 slices of pizza, 3 home made ginger biscuits, 2 go ahead bars, 1 apple, 2 bananas, 1 yougurt. Cycling so far: 2.4 miles. Waistline: bloated.
Todays comsumption at work: 8 slices of pizza, 3 home made ginger biscuits, 2 go ahead bars, 1 apple, 2 bananas, 1 yougurt. Cycling so far: 2.4 miles. Waistline: bloated.
No midday meal? Bonkalicious!Nice.
I have a 15.6mi home trip book for this evening and I am not looking forward to it.
Even with a gash Nurishment drink and a bacon-sausage bap this morning...
No midday meal? Bonkalicious!
Hah, yea that's me mate. Cheers for the comment! I was however pushing my self quite a bit more than normal. But it was an excellent rideHaha!
Who's Will Hardie on here? Good time on same Zwift stage as me last night, we'd be quite well matched.