From what I gather we also have a lot of UK trained medics leaving for better conditions in foreign health services.Brain drain is a huge problem for developing countries.
So we're not just a taker, we're a giver too
From what I gather we also have a lot of UK trained medics leaving for better conditions in foreign health services.Brain drain is a huge problem for developing countries.
If they're living in the UK, presumably they (or their family) are working in the UK which from memory means they'll be paying UK taxes...
From the link you postedThere are currently more than double the amount of EU nationals living in the UK then vice versa (although it would only be fair to note the demographic makeups of the two groups are different)
and below explains the why, as everything has to do with the old Britons retiring abroad.UK pays France £147,685,772 France pays UK £6,730,292
UK pays Spain £223,290,021 Spain pays UK £3,412,338
UK pays Germany £25,873,954 Germany pays UK £2,189,664
UK pays Italy £7,304,484 Italy pays UK £1,510,850
UK pays Poland £4,336,701 Poland pays UK £1,523,402
My response to him was that patients catching fire is more common than people think
Well I've worked in one of the biggest Trusts in a particular department for 11 years and I can tell you that if a patient caught fire it would be on my desk.
I can't wait to get to work on Monday on our DATIX system to see how many it's happened to behind my back.
surgical fires
Indeed my youngest brothers wife is a gp. They went to Australia where she was making close to 6 figures, stayed there for 6 yrs or so and now have moved to Canada where she’s still making a lot more money than here and it seems conditions over there are better from what she has said.From what I gather we also have a lot of UK trained medics leaving for better conditions in foreign health services.
So we're not just a taker, we're a giver too
Indeed my youngest brothers wife is a gp. They went to Australia where she was making close to 6 figures, stayed there for 6 yrs or so and now have moved to Canada where she’s still making a lot more money than here and it seems conditions over there are better from what she has said.
I'm sure it really isn't that hard to do. Unevaporated chlorhexidine/alcohol prep and bipolars do not mix.but does that mean patients catching fire?
I bet we've got at least one surgical fire.
In the US it's estimated that between 500 to 600 surgical fires occur every year. In England and Wales between 2012 and 2018 there were 37 surgical fires.
No but it creates shortages in countries that still need care as much as anyone. The UK pay more money so if they are hoping to provide their families with a good life (like we all do) then of course they follow the money.
Their "will" would be to probably work in their home country if it had a decent infrastructure and pay.
I've used the NHS enough to know that foreign professionals were vital and whining about the NHS being used by foreign people to have a baby safely is just sad.
I'm sure it really isn't that hard to do. Unevaporated chlorhexidine/alcohol prep and bipolars do not mix.
There's always posters in every OR about this (well at least in the theatre suite in my trust)
(Declaration of interest: not a surgeon)
(but i'm just guessing here...no idea what they did in romania)I've had cases where patients have been burnt on the operating table but not caught fire.
It's the same as what happens in a country.This is why the EU stinks because all these little satellite states get sucked dry of their skilled and hard working people. It's basically a Pyramid scheme on a massive scale.
It is a no brainer when you are a trained doctor from Romania to be paid 5 times the salary in the UK and Romania who have spent all their tax payers money doing it can do nothing to stop it as they just cannot compete.
It's the same as what happens in a country.
People born in Scarborough leave it to find work in London (etc.). This is remedied by taxing people and spreading the tax income around the country. This effect is what is happening in the EU too. Think of Poland as Scarborough and Germany as London. That's why the EU is headed for single monetary policy, taxation and federalisation. To redistribute wealth to the cities (*cough states cough*).
Depends how old you are. It's inevitable. If you have free movement, it's effectively working as one economy. People flock to opportunity/jobs, leaving a shortage in the place they left. This is remedied in a nation by tax being distributed around the country. It is inevitable that professionals in poorer EU countries will move to richer ones for better prospects. Who pays the state pension of the elderly in the countries they left behind? It is going to happen.I doubt we will see this in our lifetime or at all.
Give over you pompous wind bag...