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So Trump didn't encourage his supporters to assault people simply protesting (free speech) at his rallies and he didn't say he'd pay their legal bills if they got sued/arrested?
What a short memory you have as I seem to remember a conservative driving into a crowd killing someone and injuring others but "fine people on both sides".
MAGA hat wearer recently assaulted a BBC camera man at MAGA rally.
Do you need to me to go on?
Those in this thread claiming its the left that throw around insults when Trump is by far the very worst we've ever seen at throwing around insults allows me to call them liars. There is an insult for you and its true which makes it even better.
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The whole US system is broken. Great idea but the founders never thought it would end up like this with politics this partisan. They don't even have a federal right to vote, its all down to the States which is why some of them purge voters rolls to stop people voting if they are likely to vote for the opposite party. Can you imagine Washington, Madison, Jefferson would be cool with that? In the UK you can just turn up and vote, we have a legal right to do so. In the US you don't. And now other nations have been given free rein to attack and manipulate their elections, how is that going to end well? The GOP have been so short sighted. They should have slammed Russia with sanctions so harsh no nation would **** with their elections again. Instead they didn't even get a smack on the wrist. Good luck America, you're screwed.
It was remarkable to genuinely see some conviction (no pun intended
) from a Republican senator.
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You dont half post some gibberish, the founding fathers didnt consider how partisan would affect the nation or governments ability to function? You will find they actually warned against partisan politics. Maybe read up some more before you spout this verbal diarrhoea.
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Warned against it, still broken as hell, its a corrupt mess on all sides (mostly Trumps given the amount of arrests and cover ups).
Everyone was warning them it wouldn't work, Dems control house/Reps control senate, but when they got control of the house they couldn't wait to impeach. They just hoped to smear POTUS up until the election using the impeachment to do it - but it backfire massively for Biden.
Sorry - just lol.. He's only out for himself and he needed to protect himself as he was one of the two, as far as I can make out, Reps to be in the gang of 6 or so major conspirators.It was remarkable to genuinely see some conviction (no pun intended
You may think that is funny, but time will tell.
You are wasting your time. They don't care about facts, they refuse to acknowledge the US's separation of powers and the presidential right to executive privileged. I don't know if they are just plain ignorant or deliberately so, either way, if it does not fit the narrative fed to them by the left and CNN/MSNBC, then it does not exist in their reality.
//edit, If he was so dangerous to the US, why wait 33 days to hand over the articles to the senate?
That was for @chroniclard
Sorry, didn't mean this to be a new post.
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Wasnt really a smear, given the overwhelming evidence it was all true and if the Senate(as its supposed to be) wasn't biased he would have been removed.
Yes everyone who does or says anything against Trump is an evil, shady, deep state conspirator. I get it.
You can flip that logic as well, easily enough, and I didn't see this evidence - he asked about corruption but they said it was in his remit.
If the Dems wasn't biased he wouldn't have been impeached in the first place - works both ways.
It's a shame that politics is based more on how's side you're on than doing what is right. If the senate was a neutral group he'd have been found guilty.
Worst case the muppet is in power for another 4 years, then whoever comes in can start to rebuild the country again.
Worst case the muppet is in power for another 4 years, then whoever comes in can start to rebuild the country again.
Not everyone, but Romney is sort of obvious as every other Rep' voted on party lines and he didn't - why was that? Of course he was stunning and brave, that must be it..
Correct. He showed genuine conviction and conscience, and a devotion to his faith:
Sincere, intelligent and succinct.
I posted this in the other thread, but i encourage everyone to read it:
https://theweek.com/articles/893884
Some highlights -
"The implications of this assault are already obvious. The president can't be indicted or brought to justice while in office. He may obstruct justice without limits. He can't be impeached during an election year. He can't commit impeachable offenses in the pursuit of his office because he believes his re-election to be so important to the country's future as to supersede all other considerations. He can't be impeached for an abuse of power because it's not technically a crime, and the Department of Justice is no longer interested in investigating his crimes anyway. The only way to get rid of him is to beat him in an election he is openly undermining. The logic is circular and leads back to where it started: total impunity, endorsed enthusiastically by one of America's two political parties, who correctly perceive this warped system of circular authority as their only way of clinging to power."
"The second way that the House GOP's Burisma fairy tale fell apart was that several prominent Republican senators admitted that the president did everything he was accused of doing but that they just couldn't be bothered voting for removal. "It was wrong for President Trump to mention former Vice President Biden on that phone call, and it was wrong for him ask a foreign country to investigate a political rival," said Sen. Susan Collins. Others went further.
Sen. Marco Rubio: "Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a president from office." In other words, the president committed impeachable offenses, but in the opinion of Marco Rubio, it would be bad for the country to bring him to justice.
Sen. Lamar Alexander: "There is no need for more evidence to prove something that has already been proven."
Sen. Lisa Murkowski: "The president's behavior was shameful and wrong. His personal interests do not take precedent over those of this great nation."
All of the people making these statements voted to acquit.
Maybe Rubio and Murkowski and all of the tsk-tsking moderates and opportunists really believe that removing President Trump would plunge the country into some kind of partisan pandemonium that would tear us asunder. But their choice instead is to throw us to the wolves, to protect President Trump and Republican power over and above any other competing principle, knowing full well that Trump himself openly harbors authoritarian ambitions."
https://theweek.com/articles/893884
Some highlights -
"The implications of this assault are already obvious. The president can't be indicted or brought to justice while in office. He may obstruct justice without limits. He can't be impeached during an election year. He can't commit impeachable offenses in the pursuit of his office because he believes his re-election to be so important to the country's future as to supersede all other considerations. He can't be impeached for an abuse of power because it's not technically a crime, and the Department of Justice is no longer interested in investigating his crimes anyway. The only way to get rid of him is to beat him in an election he is openly undermining. The logic is circular and leads back to where it started: total impunity, endorsed enthusiastically by one of America's two political parties, who correctly perceive this warped system of circular authority as their only way of clinging to power."
"The second way that the House GOP's Burisma fairy tale fell apart was that several prominent Republican senators admitted that the president did everything he was accused of doing but that they just couldn't be bothered voting for removal. "It was wrong for President Trump to mention former Vice President Biden on that phone call, and it was wrong for him ask a foreign country to investigate a political rival," said Sen. Susan Collins. Others went further.
Sen. Marco Rubio: "Just because actions meet a standard of impeachment does not mean it is in the best interest of the country to remove a president from office." In other words, the president committed impeachable offenses, but in the opinion of Marco Rubio, it would be bad for the country to bring him to justice.
Sen. Lamar Alexander: "There is no need for more evidence to prove something that has already been proven."
Sen. Lisa Murkowski: "The president's behavior was shameful and wrong. His personal interests do not take precedent over those of this great nation."
All of the people making these statements voted to acquit.
Maybe Rubio and Murkowski and all of the tsk-tsking moderates and opportunists really believe that removing President Trump would plunge the country into some kind of partisan pandemonium that would tear us asunder. But their choice instead is to throw us to the wolves, to protect President Trump and Republican power over and above any other competing principle, knowing full well that Trump himself openly harbors authoritarian ambitions."
Rebuild what?
The US is on the up and up. Except for the Sanctuary cities\states which need banning asap.
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You chose not to see the evidence, even Rep senators were confirming he did it.
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