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And?

This happens on a monumental scale everyday, why is Caroline Flack so special?

What is crazy is she had looks, Money and a partner. Social Media showing white sandy beaches with some nice wine. And you have many men out there like vets in much poorer states. Living rough, Having no kids or mates and yet all the sympathy and air time goes on this one.

Wtf :(
 
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And you will find this same sentiment being voiced by every older generation throughout human history, that the following generations are too soft, too lazy, too liberal and going to cause the downfall of society! So don't worry, it's just you getting old ;)

you might be interested in this book if you've not read it already:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Extraordinary-Popular-Delusions-Wordsworth-Reference/dp/1853263494/

Lots of example from History, the book was originally published in the 1800s and is looking back much further but is still very relevant today - there is a chapter on long hair/beards and the disapproval of them at different points in time.
 
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And you will find this same sentiment being voiced by every older generation throughout human history, that the following generations are too soft, too lazy, too liberal and going to cause the downfall of society! So don't worry, it's just you getting old

The further we move away from world war 2 the less tolerant people are of others and themselves.

When our grandfathers fought in the war they had to have strict discipline. When their sons/daughters came out some reacted against it with the 60s flower power and all that stuff, though they still had a sense of a moral code. Then my generation of the 80's and 90s had a smaller sense of duty, but with the advent of new technology we made great things. Now in post 2000 there is not much of a moral society. In only the most extreme situations do people generally agree on. But in every day things more and more people are less tolerant and respectful of others. Back in our grandparents time you wasn't insulting to other people as you knew what they had been through. You'd shared a life experience. Today a lot of people have nothing in common with each other, unless we choose to have.
 
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The further we move away from world war 2 the less tolerant people are of others and themselves.

When our grandfathers fought in the war they had to have strict discipline. When their sons/daughters came out some reacted against it with the 60s flower power and all that stuff, though they still had a sense of a moral code. Then my generation of the 80's and 90s had a smaller sense of duty, but with the advent of new technology we made great things. Now in post 2000 there is not much of a moral society. In only the most extreme situations do people generally agree on. But in every day things more and more people are less tolerant and respectful of others. Back in our grandparents time you wasn't insulting to other people as you knew what they had been through. You'd shared a life experience. Today a lot of people have nothing in common with each other, unless we choose to have.

Has very little to do with the war, it's the lack of a serious education that people prior to the war had that is causing the majority of these social issues. We need to bring back merit based Grammar schools, ASAP. It's also the death of the family unit, the amount of damage that children are foisted upon them with divorce/absentee parents is disgraceful.

But it's fine, you know cause people can consume in ever greater quantities while being incredibly depressed and because they can't think due to having no real education, they can't resolve it, so lash out at someone else.
 
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you might be interested in this book if you've not read it already:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Extraordinary-Popular-Delusions-Wordsworth-Reference/dp/1853263494/

Lots of example from History, the book was originally published in the 1800s and is looking back much further but is still very relevant today - there is a chapter on long hair/beards and the disapproval of them at different points in time.

No, haven't read that one, looks good cheers.

Funnily,,I was reading this article last night https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-51387124

Crossing Divides: Why 'cartooning' political opponents is bad for us

Which is a good piece about the polarisation of politics and society today and the driving forces behind it, citing "snow flake and gammon' as examples. But it also references this article at the end

A recent example of this came from former US Navy Seal James Hatch, who described his experience of enrolling as Yale's oldest first-year undergraduate, aged 52, last year.

Which is really well written and worth a read as it completely sums up @robgmun incorrect attitude and opinion in his post

Check it out here https://gen.medium.com/my-semester-with-the-**********-888285f0e662?gi=a46ba646cd1
 
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What is crazy is she had looks, Money and a partner. Social Media showing white sandy beaches with some nice wine. And you have many men out there like vets in much poorer states. Living rough, Having no kids or mates and yet all the sympathy and air time goes on this one.

Wtf :(
Completely agree with your initital sentiment but airtime comes by default with fame, not really her fault it's like that.

Unfortunately the public don't get to hear about 'normal people' so sympathy is not even possible in those cases.
 
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What is crazy is she had looks, Money and a partner. Social Media showing white sandy beaches with some nice wine. And you have many men out there like vets in much poorer states. Living rough, Having no kids or mates and yet all the sympathy and air time goes on this one.

Wtf :(

Yeah but that was all built around the image she's cultivated etc... I'd assume she might well have had a mortgage, was worried (like plenty of people in that industry) about sustaining her career etc.. and suddenly this decision to go ahead with the trial comes in and she knows it's likely that people will hear more details about the incident - what she did will be on the record/public, including some potentially rather crazy behaviour caught on a web cam.

The boyfriend was attacked in his sleep with a lamp, there was seemingly some other damage in the flat too (a wine glass smashed?), she self harmed, apparently flipped a table over when police arrived - presumably there were more details to come about what she said/having to be restrained/taken to hospital etc...

So this already affected her career in terms of Love Island and had the potential to affect it even more so, she could have been worried it was all over - if she had a mortgage to pay then that potentially means losing the flat and taking less well paid jobs etc... she was already seemingly paranoid about losing her partner too, thus the attack in the first place.

So I mean you can say she had all those things but perhaps in her mind all those things were potentially about to be taken away from her.
 
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Estimated by whom and based on what data?

According to Celebrity Net Worth, the 40-year-old TV star has managed to earn herself around £6.3million from a variety of different jobs and endorsements with big brand names and fashion labels.

She was getting £250,000 in June 2019 for presenting Love Island, and signed a £1 million deal with River Island to only wear their clothes. I assume before she was suspended for the new series she was getting even more money to present that series.
 
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