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Malevolence said:
I was informed by my local council that there was "no way in hell" I could run a cable across the pavement, even with a cover. And besides, it wouldn't last more than a few hours before someone nicked it anyway.
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All your post tells me is that you're the primary barrier.

No council would use the words "no way in hell" that you've quoted, certainly not formally, so I'm guessing that's a negative exaggeration of the fact. What did they actually say? If it was negative then did you argue back re: how will they meet their environment/traffic/emissions targets without supporting the switch the EVs?

And secondly, yeah, pure misinformation. Charging cables are locked into the car's charging port as soon as they're plugged in and until their unlocked by you, and you could also opt to have a tethered charger (ie the cable is a physical part of the unit at the other end) as well. It's basically impossible to nick the cable, so you've obviously not looked into it that much. They can take a lot more force than you'd think:


As above, I don't think thieves and vandals actually realise the Tesla's capabilities, ie sentry mode, alarm notifications to phone, pin-to-drive etc. Else why would you so plainly and visibly do the above? I've seen recordings of them trying to be stolen, only for them to steal the car in front, smashing a side window to look in the boot, etc, all visible and seemingly unaware of the recordings. Which is something since it even notifies you on the screen inside that you're being recorded.

Idiots gonna be idiots regardless of what car you have.

Bug One said:
Well done dude. Just goes to prove all the nay-sayers wrong. Where there's a will, there's a way.
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Thanks.
 
he was paraphrasing ... but, searchine earlier, several web links confirmn the liability aspect .... think about how the utilities sign up maintenance work
kerbside home charger, in link, looks ideal, especially if they would they consecrate the space to you

https://electricbrighton.com/faqs/how-do-people-without-off-street-parking-charge-their-cars
With some people able to park close to their homes, it's extremely tempting to want to run a cable across the pavement to their car. However, this is increasingly something that is not recommended and Councils are generally advising against this. These days, many pavements are cluttered with bins, recycling boxes, bikes, parked cars and cables are yet another potential hazard for pedestrians, wheelchair users and people with buggies.

Apart from there being the law to consider, any issues that arise from running a cable across a pavement will put the owner of that cable under direct legal responsibility. Its a risk not worth the effort.
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Journey said:
They wanted a glimpse of the future in the present ;)

Great job with the cable setup, a job very well done. Sadly most people are only willing to find excuses to not bother, rather than trying to find a solution for the time being.
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Well yeah, quite. I imagine they'll be EV owners within the next couple of years, particularly because we live in a planned Clean Air Zone.

Yeah seems to be working well. Watched plenty of people walk over it in the morning, most don't blink twice, those that do look at the car rather than the charger... probably because they're in the market!

This is the cable cover if anyone's interested: www.theworkplacedepot.co.uk/1-channel-cable-protector. It's channel is 1mm bigger than the cable so basically the smallest you can get, and the width makes it less of a ramp. The whole thing's made of rubber so it doesn't budge an inch even if you forcefully kick it.
 
jpaul said:
he was paraphrasing ... but, searchine earlier, several web links confirmn the liability aspect .... think about how the utilities sign up maintenance work
kerbside home charger, in link, looks ideal, especially if they would they consecrate the space to you

https://electricbrighton.com/faqs/how-do-people-without-off-street-parking-charge-their-cars
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Of course I'm liable. Nobody's arguing that. I'm also not talking about just running a cable over the pavement without protection.

The setup in that link is ideal, but most terraced houses don't allow for that since the minimum car park space length is more than the width of most houses. You could have the post installed of course and just no dedicated bay, or where two+ EV bays meet they're combined like pay and display bays as opposed to being segregated.

Certianly going to show that to the mayor and transport cabinet member here.
 
Russinating said:
All your post tells me is that you're the primary barrier.

No council would use the words "no way in hell" that you've quoted, certainly not formally, so I'm guessing that's a negative exaggeration of the fact. What did they actually say? If it was negative then did you argue back re: how will they meet their environment/traffic/emissions targets without supporting the switch the EVs?

And secondly, yeah, pure misinformation. Charging cables are locked into the car's charging port as soon as they're plugged in and until their unlocked by you, and you could also opt to have a tethered charger (ie the cable is a physical part of the unit at the other end) as well. It's basically impossible to nick the cable, so you've obviously not looked into it that much. They can take a lot more force than you'd think:


As above, I don't think thieves and vandals actually realise the Tesla's capabilities, ie sentry mode, alarm notifications to phone, pin-to-drive etc. Else why would you so plainly and visibly do the above? I've seen recordings of them trying to be stolen, only for them to steal the car in front, smashing a side window to look in the boot, etc, all visible and seemingly unaware of the recordings. Which is something since it even notifies you on the screen inside that you're being recorded.

Idiots gonna be idiots regardless of what car you have.




Thanks.
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Great work on the cable setup, but I can see Malevolence's concern as well - as you can see in the video, even though you can't remove the cable, this planet is full of dribbling dumb****s who, when they find out they can't nick something, will vandalise it instead, like the mouthbreathers they are. I, too, would have reservations about using a charging cable across a pavement if I lived on a through road.

Hopefully we get to a point where it becomes common enough to not be a problem, so well done on taking the initiative.
 
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If the council sanctioned that then they shouldn't have done. There would be trouble (for the council, maybe the car's owner too) if someone did get injured and it was investigated.

Running a mains cable down basically a cutter isn't exactly up to electrical safety standards :D
 
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Jonnycoupe said:
Doesn’t matter, Nasher will get through it with his sharp wit.
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Haha.

When talking to my dad (civil engineer) his concern was over heat with that kind of gulley. Cables need space to expel heat and if they're enclosed tightly it could cause issues. He's not an expert mind, but basically the gully needs to be bigger than the cable rather than imbedded or tight.
 
Russinating said:
Haha.

When talking to my dad (civil engineer) his concern was over heat with that kind of gulley. Cables need space to expel heat and if they're enclosed tightly it could cause issues. He's not an expert mind, but basically the gully needs to be bigger than the cable rather than imbedded or tight.
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It is clearly much bigger than the cable.
 
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