Live Stream of my Bird Box - Bluetits Nesting - Chicks Hatching Now

She seems to be moving between boxes again. She has removed most of the nesting material she had brought in yesterday and seems to be setting up in one of the other boxes now. This is the second time she has moved and she looks to be going back to the box she started in.

Updated Steam Link: https://bird-box.ml/

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Excellent. I have a good selection of bird coming to the feeders in my garden, but can't get any to nest in the box I set up. Maybe too close to my patio doors.

I've got long tailed ****, blue ****, great ****, blackcaps (male and female), robins, dunnocks, goldfinches and collared doves.
 
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It was crashing earlier so I was starting and stopping with different settings to see if I could get it stable.

It's been on for a few hours now though.

Is it ok or you mean its messing up at the moment?

I've not touched it for a few hours.
 
I also read that I was supposed to stop and start a new stream every 12 hours so that YouTube saves the video.Over 2 hours it won't archive it.

Is that right?

I was hoping that keeping the same stream key kept the same URL for people to bookmark but it doesn't does it unless you leave the one stream open forever which will presumably crash at some point anyway.

That's without periodic router / computer reboots.

I've never streamed anything before as you tell but I'm trying. :p

I moved it from a micro server to a workstation with a 6C 12T Xeon, Quadro and 56GB.

It's behind a WiFi bridge though so not sure how much of a bottle neck that is. Might have to relocate it temporarily to cable it. I've got 20mbps up so should be capable of getting it stable and lag free. Just want it to be good for everyone.
 
I also read that I was supposed to stop and start a new stream every 12 hours so that YouTube saves the video.Over 2 hours it won't archive it.

Is that right?

I was hoping that keeping the same stream key kept the same URL for people to bookmark but it doesn't does it unless you leave the one stream open forever which will presumably crash at some point anyway.

That's without periodic router / computer reboots.

I've never streamed anything before as you tell but I'm trying. :p

I moved it from a micro server to a workstation with a 6C 12T Xeon, Quadro and 56GB.

It's behind a WiFi bridge though so not sure how much of a bottle neck that is. Might have to relocate it temporarily to cable it. I've got 20mbps up so should be capable of getting it stable and lag free. Just want it to be good for everyone.

Im not sure about how long you supposed to keep a live stream for. Not sure about YouTube.

That’s some power you got there and should be perfectly fine for streaming. That’s way over powered for 3 bird cams.

It’s stable enough what I mean is changing the layout of the cams lol :D
 
Yeah I realise that but neither of the microservers seem able to keep up with it on top of their existing workloads and my laptop seemed to struggle too.
So it will have to live on there for now.

Oh the layout can be changed without starting and stopping though? Which layout did you prefer?

I had all three on earlier (post 41) because they were in and out of them all rapidly.

Then I went back to the one that they were spending most time in to see if that helped the stability / performance.

What layout do you think works best?
 
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What layout do you think works best?

If you put all the cams on will be best as they can be seen all-together but it’s entirely up to you. :) Means you don’t need to keep changing the streams.

It might be worth looking for alternative streaming other than YouTube.

You could create a URL and just edit the file so it points to the right stream. It would update straight away if you use a 301 redirect. You probably don’t know what that is but I could set something up for you if you want and give you a password protected area to edit the URL via a webpage.

Have a think of the domain (The whole world gets free .ml domains).

If you drop me an email in trust with a couple of domains you would like to use I can set it up for you so it works properly.

See post #51
 
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I was hoping that keeping the same stream key kept the same URL for people to bookmark but it doesn't does it unless you leave the one stream open forever which will presumably crash at some point anyway.

@Nazbit here you are.... I have created you a permanent URL and a page so you can edit the URL... works a treat.. tested it fully working! I will TRUST you your login details so you can edit the index.php file. If you need help just ask me.

https://bird-box.ml

As soon as I typed that they show up

They gone again... :( aww
 
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Thanks, have received your trust message. Will have a look in to it tomorrow.

Is it stuttering a lot at the moment or is it OK?

I've been reading that they may fill the box with material and them empty it again for up to two weeks before finally settling in - should they choose to stay.

I guess the fact she came back to sleep here is a good sign even though shes pretty much emptied the box.
 
If I'd had a bird cam set up, I might have caught the seagull that dropped a lamb shank bone on the roof of my car and smashed the rear windscreen as well!
 
Is it stuttering a lot at the moment or is it OK?

It's stuttering once I get to the live time. Doesn't stutter if I rewind the youtube clip slightly. You got anything else going on in your network? maybe down the stream bit rate slightly if you can. If I see a new URL I will do the update until you check it out. Gives you time to sort anything else out on your side. It might be worth trying to do 4 separate streams to different urls and testing it that way from each cam. You can also monitor the bandwidth going out of your network to see if it's a bandwidth issue. It shouldn't be.

On the other hand maybe try streaming it to twitch rather than youtube maybe?
 
@mrbell1984 OK thanks - thats interesting. I'm working tomorrow but I'll try and have a look.

I find it oddly soothing watching it sleep stirring a little bit every now and again.

Just reading about how they sleep

https://www.thespruce.com/how-birds-sleep-386468 said:
Most birders have seen the occasional duck taking a nap on the shoreline or an owl roosting during the day, but it is generally unusual to see sleeping birds. They do need their rest, however, but a bird's sleep is very different from a human's. Learning more about how birds sleep shows just how amazing these creatures are.

Where Birds Sleep


Birds are rarely seen sleeping because they don't typically nap in the open. Instead, they choose safe, concealed locations where they are protected from predators and the elements. Those locations are generally off the ground to avoid creeping predators, and even terrestrial birds, such as wild turkeys, often roost out of reach in trees. Smaller birds nestle into dense brush or foliage that provides adequate shelter. Many birds seek out cavities such as unoccupied birdhouses or roosting boxes, a hollow snag, a shallow cave or cliff crevice, a chimney, or just the deep crook of a tree where they are more protected so they can sleep safely.

Waterfowl and wading birds often sleep on the water, floating safely out of reach of predators or opting for small islands as roosting spots. Should a predator approach, the splashing noises and vibrations of moving water will easily alert the birds.

One place birds do not generally sleep is in the nest. While a bird that is actively incubating eggs or keeping small chicks warm may nap on the nest, once the birds are grown they do not return to the nesting site to sleep. After the nesting season, a nest is often coated with feces, bits of leftover food, shed feathers, and other debris. The nest may also be infested with mites and it is often falling apart from the vigorous use of multiple hatchlings. This makes it unsuitable for sleeping, and while some birds will return to birdhouses for winter roosting, they generally only do so if the birdhouse has been appropriately cleaned and winterized to be as useful as possible.

How Birds Sleep

Unlike humans and other mammals that enter a state of relatively complete unconsciousness while sleeping, birds can more carefully control their sleep. Birds often use unihemispheric slow-wave sleep (USWS), literally sleeping with one eye open and only half their brain resting at once. The other half of the brain is alert, able to note danger if needed. While the exact way birds control their sleep patterns has not been well studied, it has been shown that the more protected a bird feels when sleeping, the more likely it is to sleep deeper. If the situation is more uncertain, however, the bird will sleep more lightly and is more likely to use USWS. It is believed that some migrating birds or aerial species such as swifts or albatrosses may even use USWS in flight, literally sleeping in the air.

Sleeping in flocks is another defensive strategy many birds use. By roosting communally, with some species creating nighttime roosts of thousands of individuals, there are more birds to notice predators as well as more targets should a predator attack, giving each individual bird a greater chance of survival. In winter, many birds, particularly small passerines such as chickadees, ****, and bluebirds, roost together in confined spaces to share body heat and survive lower nighttime temperatures.

When birds sleep, they protect vulnerable body parts by burying them in their feathers. A bird's feathers create insulating air pockets that help it keep warm, and by tucking feet or the bill into the feathers, less body heat is lost. When a bird's bill is buried deeply in its feathers, it is also able to breathe air warmed by its own body heat.

Another adaptation birds have for safe sleep is the construction of their feet and legs. A flexor tendon contracts the bird's toes and talons when the legs are bent, such as when a bird is nestled down for roosting. This means the automatic, at rest position of the foot is for the talons to be tightly locked around a perch, making it impossible for the bird to fall while sleeping. The tendon only releases when the bird voluntarily straightens its legs, as it would for taking off.

There is little data available about how long birds sleep at once, but studies indicate that birds may sleep longer during longer nights. This may be because diurnal birds are not able to forage or engage in other activities without sufficient light, and so sleeping is the next natural item on their to-do lists. Birds are able to "power nap" during the day, however, and can catch up on sleep on longer days whenever they are in a safe, secure spot.

If I'd had a bird cam set up, I might have caught the seagull that dropped a lamb shank bone on the roof of my car and smashed the rear windscreen as well!

No way?? Seagulls are like the Chinook helicopter of birds. One took a full Cornish pasty from my dad once. It was absolutely massive.
 
I have a variety of birds including bluetits visiting here ,ive a bird house thingy inside this bush ,a feeder and a bird bath behind watering can ,not even too fussed what they are just like to chill and watch them ,some nesting under my guttering ,again not a clue what they are

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This is great. I have a box just outside my home office that has blue **** nesting in it. Will show this to my kids so they can get an idea of what is going on inside.
 
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