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I just needed to see the above video to know defunding the WHO was the right thing to do. They're clearly incapable of being an objective organisation.
 
doodah said:
This has aged well (cutting funding to the WHO).
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heh I came to say the same and see if he feels the same :D

To be honest though of all the things Trump has done, this is one thing I can agree with him on as the WHO has proven to be a corrupt organisation, can't really blame him for not wanting to be part of it any more
 
Trusty said:
bit slow, arent you lads?
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your usual vague post, that doesn't have any useful information. Deflecting the conversation and leaving everyone confused, somehow means others are slow??
Roar87 said:

I just needed to see the above video to know defunding the WHO was the right thing to do. They're clearly incapable of being an objective organisation.
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What exactly does that video proove?
 
steve5424 said:
your usual vague post, that doesn't have any useful information. Deflecting the conversation and leaving everyone confused, somehow means others are slow??
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And being wrong as well.

There are a handful of people, in the grand scheme of things, who benefit financially from Trump being in charge and therefore have some sort of motive for voting for him.

The vast majority of his supporters are low IQ CT nuts.
 
Diddums said:
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Bang on the money :p
 
Roar87 said:
If they can't be apolitical and objective then how can we trust them to give accurate health information? They're clearly scared of offending the PRC, what else might they not do to upset the PRC?
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Yeah...because the WHO struggling to officially recognise Taiwan as a country is awful....let see who else does that:

It is not recognized as a country by its most important ally, the U.S
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https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...taiwans-status-geopolitical-absurdity/593371/
 
Hellsmk2 said:
The sad thing is that he will still be re-elected. He's managed to do what the Tories did over with Brexit; create a toxic black and white atmosphere where you're either team A, or team B and to hell with things like facts and consequences. [..]
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He didn't create that atmosphere. He's a result of it, not a cause of it. "Progressive" ideology created it. Or, more accurately, greatly increased it. It's always been around, but an ideology that exists for the purpose of promoting belief in group identity (i.e. the belief that "they're all the same") and the irrational prejudice and discrimination that comes with that belief and using that as a method of increasing authoritarianism will obviously increase it. "a toxic black and white atmosphere where you're either team A, or team B and to hell with things like facts and consequences" is a succinct description of "progressive" ideology. What Trump did is provide an alternative to that ideology. Not a good alternative. But the only alternative on offer.

kinetic747 said:
Despite his incompetence his core support is still there, unbelievable really. Says as much about them as it does Trump.
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The USA is following a normal trajectory with covid-19. Better than some countries, worse than others.

Have a look here:

http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

and look at the "covid-19 cases by country, normalised by country population" and select "deaths" as the data because that's more accurately comparable between countries with different degrees of testing.

You'll find that the USA's curve is roughly in the middle. It's doing better than the UK, for example. Or Italy. Or Spain. etc. If Trump is as responsible for the USA's handling of the pandemic as you claim, you should be regarding him as doing a pretty good job.

But to hell with things like facts and consequences. It's much easier to blame <insert your chosen target here>.
 
deuse said:

That is disgusting.
They are now 100% CHO
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To be fair my understanding is they're in good company given that only 18 Countries actually recognise Taiwan as a sovereign state. Whilst the WHO is supposed to be an independent body they still rely on the cooperation of nations to function effectively, in the context of a global pandemic and given China's importance on the World stage I suspect Taiwan is not "the hill on which to die".

I don't advocate his actions during the interview but unfortunately in this imperfect World very few organisations manage to do their jobs on a global level without succumbing to some level of hypocrisy, or without making deals with devils.
 
chroniclard said:
Righties are blaming progressives for being toxic ********* now?
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"progressives" are what they are - irrationally prejudiced authoritarians. They vary in which of those two things (irrational prejudices, authoritarianism) they consider more important but that doesn't matter because the two go together so well.

"toxic *********" is an appropriate succinct description of them. Unlike the "left/right" false dichotomy that far too many people like to burble about as if it meant anything much.
 
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