Siliconslave's how to make espresso thread

Got a kilogram of Stronghold from Origin this week, will keep me in espresso for a while. 1/2k of Kenya Blue Mountain from a roaster in Dorset for filter on the way.

Then when I've exhausted my small bag, I'll get a kg of Outpost's decaf espresso blend which is incredible, if a bit pricey.
 
Hi All,

Late to the party here,

I couldn't justify an espresso machine right now, but all this time working from home has meant I needed better coffee. I now have a stovetop/induction percolator (I think its a 6-8 cup) - which is helping a lot in the morning with some I have some illy / Lavazza ground coffee.

Quick question, for those that use a percolator - are you making a mountain of coffee? I ask as most of my extended family in Italy do this, however I'm not sure it's needed / views differ.

Opinions welcome, in the future a machine will be on the cards (probably when I have room in the kitchen).
 
If your using Illy / Lavazza changing that will be the quickest improvement, that and a grinder. Also don't put cold water in the bottom of the stovetop, boil the water first then put it in.

I'm not sure with stove tops if you can under fill it.
 
When you say percolator, do you mean a Moka Pot, like this -> https://www.amazon.co.uk/Bialetti-M...ild=1&keywords=moka+pot&qid=1590145315&sr=8-5 ?

Why worry about what the extended family do? If you want to drink a mountain of coffee then do so. We're getting through about 450g/coffee a week at the moment.

That's right a Moka pot.

Sorry, when I say mountain, I actually mean they build a mountain of ground coffee before screwing it together (the Italian way)

If your using Illy / Lavazza changing that will be the quickest improvement, that and a grinder. Also don't put cold water in the bottom of the stovetop, boil the water first then put it in.

I'm not sure with stove tops if you can under fill it.

You're right, you can't under fill - that's what I have been told.

Happy to try different coffee's, I didn't realise Illy / Lavazza was a big no no :)

Any specific reason to pre-boil?
 
Sorry, when I say mountain, I actually mean they build a mountain of ground coffee before screwing it together (the Italian way)

i've always lightly tamped it down flat, not sure about creating a mountain?

Happy to try different coffee's, I didn't realise Illy / Lavazza was a big no no :)

Any specific reason to pre-boil?

they aren't usually very fresh or (imho) very nice flavour wise.

The pre-boil means that its not on the stove for so long waiting to boil and thus doesn't give as bitter a flavour in the end.

A great guide here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpyBYuu-wJI
 
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Pretty happy with that....harder than it looks, you can't just look up instructions on how to do it, you just have to practice and get the feel of the milk and the pour right.

Timber Town espresso from Outpost has a lovely rich crema which helps!
 
I managed to score a used ESAM 4200 this week. Picked it up yesterday and basically whacked it onto highest dose/smallest coffee size to see how it went. I'll do a thorough strip and clean today now I know it's working.

Any tips from existing owners? It's replacing a DeLonghi domestic espresso machine so I'm mostly after espresso style output.
 
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Pretty happy with that....harder than it looks, you can't just look up instructions on how to do it, you just have to practice and get the feel of the milk and the pour right.

Timber Town espresso from Outpost has a lovely rich crema which helps!

How is the timber town, we have been on 200 degrees brazilian love affair for months now and Im getting a little bored and fancy a change but want somewhere local again.
 
How is the timber town, we have been on 200 degrees brazilian love affair for months now and Im getting a little bored and fancy a change but want somewhere local again.

It's pretty good, although personally I prefer the Stronghold blend from Origin. Personal taste though, it is good the timer town, lovely crema.

The decaf espresso blend from Outpost is lovely though, it's my favourite bean right now, caffeine or not! Just ordered a kg of it.
 
Pretty happy with that....harder than it looks, you can't just look up instructions on how to do it, you just have to practice and get the feel of the milk and the pour right.

cjw : have not dabbled much with cappucino's, wondering if cup shape impacts milk art ... if you have a more bowl shaped cup with a larger surface area , is it easier for the milk to do what it wants : reduced surface tension near edges, different convection/mixing ; you get a 'border' too

new to me, looking up timber town, a data concentrator site https://thecoffeeroasters.co.uk/ ->browse

Chocolate: 53
Citrus: 24
Earthy: 2
Floral: 17
Fruit: 59
Nut Like: 20
Rhubarb: 2
Spice: 11
Sweet: 43


rhubarb - but it's a light roast ... does light ever make a good esspresso.
 
cjw : have not dabbled much with cappucino's, wondering if cup shape impacts milk art ... if you have a more bowl shaped cup with a larger surface area , is it easier for the milk to do what it wants : reduced surface tension near edges, different convection/mixing ; you get a 'border' too

new to me, looking up timber town, a data concentrator site https://thecoffeeroasters.co.uk/ ->browse

Chocolate: 53
Citrus: 24
Earthy: 2
Floral: 17
Fruit: 59
Nut Like: 20
Rhubarb: 2
Spice: 11
Sweet: 43


rhubarb - but it's a light roast ... does light ever make a good esspresso.

Timber Town is seasonal, it's an Ethiopian/Peru blend atm. I just finished the last of mine.

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I don't like big cappuccinos, if I'm making a milk drink it's usually somewhere between a cortado and a cappuccino.

Really don't like the British style of cappuccino where you get a gallon of milk in a bowl.
 
Timber Town is seasonal, it's an Ethiopian/Peru blend atm. I just finished the last of mine.

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I don't like big cappuccinos, if I'm making a milk drink it's usually somewhere between a cortado and a cappuccino.

Really don't like the British style of cappuccino where you get a gallon of milk in a bowl.

I blame Friends and their big mugs :D
 
I managed to score a used ESAM 4200 this week.
I've had one for about a month. Have been following a post from avforums which suggests trying to get a 60ml double shot in a 20 second brew. I know this isn't the method preferred for manual espresso but I don't fancy weighing in beans each time I want a drink.
Currently have the grind set to 1 away from finest, drink size at 9 o'clock and strength at about 2 o'clock.
 
I blame Friends and their big mugs :D
shop assistant told me starbucks are re-opening today with their apparently £4 coffees ...I'd expect a quadruple+ shot, how much coffee do they use.

Cappuccino cups I have are ~150ml , milk steaming attempt last night just gave boiled milk, so no pictures,
I need to start steaming a cup of milk a day for practice when the machine is on ... but was very surprised to see you can practice with water+(drop)fairyliquid.
 
Got my Kenya Blue Mountain from Dorset Coffee Company, mainly for the other half as she likes a filter first thing in the morning. Very nice, I had one from Coffeedirect before which was good but a bit too expensive, this one's 9.50 delivered for 500g.
 
Got my Kenya Blue Mountain from Dorset Coffee Company, mainly for the other half as she likes a filter first thing in the morning. Very nice, I had one from Coffeedirect before which was good but a bit too expensive, this one's 9.50 delivered for 500g.

£9.50 delivered for 500g is cheaper than Square mile!
 
I've had one for about a month. Have been following a post from avforums which suggests trying to get a 60ml double shot in a 20 second brew. I know this isn't the method preferred for manual espresso but I don't fancy weighing in beans each time I want a drink.
Currently have the grind set to 1 away from finest, drink size at 9 o'clock and strength at about 2 o'clock.
That's basically my issue, I usually have full-caff and decaf beans and can't use both easily with this machine. I've tried the ground coffee inlet but it made something resembling brown water.

I foolishly tried your settings out in an espresso cup without thinking :D Thanks though, I'll give them another go next tea break.
 
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