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tom_e said:
People sit at home and drink strong brewed coffee, what's the difference?
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Glucose, citric acid, taurine, natural flavors, sodium citrate, l-carnitine, panax ginseng root extract, ascorbic acid, sodium chloride, niacinamide, riboflavin, guarana seed extract, inositol, glucuronalactone, pyridoxine hydrochloride, cyanobalamin.
 
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Just drink tap water most of the time, really dont get people that wont drink it. Maybe in London as heard the tap water there doesnt taste very nice but meh.

Do like coke zero but cant stand energy drinks, think the caffeine makes me feel weird, same if I have too much coffee. But that sickly sweet smell is just horrible
 
bloodiedathame said:
Glucose, citric acid, taurine, natural flavors, sodium citrate, l-carnitine, panax ginseng root extract, ascorbic acid, sodium chloride, niacinamide, riboflavin, guarana seed extract, inositol, glucuronalactone, pyridoxine hydrochloride, cyanobalamin.
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You are aware that some of those are vitamins? You'll find most of those chemicals in a lemon.

Even tap water has sodium chloride in it for gods sake.
 
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Energize said:
You are aware right that some of those are vitamins right? You'll find most of those chemicals in a lemon.

Even tap water has sodium chloride in it for gods sake.
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Yeah I am. Someone asked what the difference was between coffee and an energy drink, so I posted some ingredients. I'm not sure God is going to help you here, maybe he can point you in the direction of a chill pill?

A Chill Pill includes the following ingredients: Vitamin B1 (Thiamin), Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin), Niacin (as niacinamide), Vitamin B6 (as pyridoxine hydrochloride), Calcium (as calcium carbonate, phosphate, amino acid chelate), Phosphorus (as dicalcium phosphate), Ashwagandha root extract (standardized for 1.5% withanolides), Chill Pill Herb Blend, Valerian root extract, Chamomile flower, Oat Straw, Hops flower, Skullcap leaf, Spearmint leaf, Nettle leaf, Hawthorn Berry Fruit, Fennel Seed, Horsetail leaf, Peppermint leaf, Motherwort herb, Bioperine, Ginger root extract, Trikatu, Digezyme, Lactospore, Microcrystalline cellulose, stearic acid, vegetable stearate, silica and aqueous tablet coating (purified water, hydroxypropyl methylcellulose and polyethylene glycol).
 
Steeps said:
Loads of drinks changed recipe to slide under a certain limit. A month after the change I found an old bottle of full sugar sprite instead of the 50/50 they now call full sugar and the taste was so much better. I'd rather pay the tax and have a treat than this half attempt to cut sugar in everyone's diet.
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Yeah a lot did. But at least things like Coke still have their normal sugar-filled versions (when you can flippin' find it!). Ribena thought they knew best and ditched the recipe entirely without offering a full-fat alternative.

Energize said:
That's my whole point, you didn't. Many of those are found in various tea preparations. Sodium chloride is in everything we consume.
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Stop nitpicking. You get his point. Energy drinks are full of rubbish.
 
Energize said:
That's my whole point, you didn't. Many of those are found in various tea preparations. Sodium chloride is in everything we consume.
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He's talking about coffee, not tea you monster. I struck-through sodium chloride (salt) because yes that's in tap water ON THE ASSUMPTION that the coffee was prepared with tap water AND IGNORING the fact that there are different amounts found in both drinks (5mg and 75mg per 100ml (tap water vs monster). Now don't make me reply again please.
 
bloodiedathame said:
He's talking about coffee, not tea you monster. I struck-through sodium chloride (salt) because yes that's in tap water ON THE ASSUMPTION that the coffee was prepared with tap water AND IGNORING the fact that there are different amounts found in both drinks (5mg and 75mg per 100ml (tap water vs monster). Now don't make me reply again please.
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The same applies to tea and coffee though, "natural flavours" do you think coffee has no flavour?

Scam said:
Yeah a lot did. But at least things like Coke still have their normal sugar-filled versions (when you can flippin' find it!). Ribena thought they knew best and ditched the recipe entirely without offering a full-fat alternative.

Stop nitpicking. You get his point. Energy drinks are full of rubbish.
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According to him that wasn't his point if you read his post, as that stuff is not rubbish and includes vitamins. Citric acid for example is what makes lemons so sour it's not a toxin. I despair at the science education of the general public sometimes.
 
Energize said:
According to him that wasn't his point if you read his post, as that stuff is not rubbish and includes vitamins. Citric acid for example is what makes lemons so sour it's not a toxin. I despair at the science education of the general public sometimes.
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It seems clear to me that he was pointing out the difference between something fairly 'natural' like coffee beans, compared to something chemically manufactured like energy drinks. Your average science education doesn't cover how stuff like energy drinks are manufactured or what the chemical makeup of them is (a Chemistry degree might), and that goes some way to explain why I'm not a fan of them.

Just because energy drinks may contain naturally occurring ingredients doesn't mean they can be counted as safe or good for you. A lame Google can help explain why; https://www.energydrinkslawsuit.com...and Guarana,combined with caffeine and sugar.
 
I pretty much only drink tea and water.

Unless I’m drinking booze (which is rare these days, once or twice a month) and then I’ll drink most things. I really like drinks with ginger beer like Moscow mules.
 
Scam said:
Just because energy drinks may contain naturally occurring ingredients doesn't mean they can be counted as safe or good for you. A lame Google can help explain why; https://www.energydrinkslawsuit.com/5-most-potentially-harmful-ingredients-energy-drinks/#:~:text=Ginseng, Gingko Biloba, and Guarana,combined with caffeine and sugar.
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The URL of that website does seem to point to a completely unbiased view point...

Anyway in response to my original question it was a little tongue in cheek as I'm well aware of what is in coffee and in energy drinks, my point was both provide a decent caffeine and therefore energy hit so why is it more surprising that people sit around the house drinking one but not the other.

Also the nutritional count on a fancy iced mocha choca unicorn sprinkled latte is going to make pretty balanced reading compared to an energy drink yet again plenty of people would just class that as having a "coffee".
 
Scam said:
It seems clear to me that he was pointing out the difference between something fairly 'natural' like coffee beans, compared to something chemically manufactured like energy drinks. Your average science education doesn't cover how stuff like energy drinks are manufactured or what the chemical makeup of them is (a Chemistry degree might), and that goes some way to explain why I'm not a fan of them.
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Yes I agree it does seem like that, but he then backtracked and said he was just posting ingredients as if to imply he meant nothing by it.

Chemistry degree? We are talking key stage 3 stuff here for a lot of this everyone should know what citric acid and sodium chloride are. Any A level student and perhaps even GCSE would know the rest.
 
Energize said:
Yes I agree it does seem like that, but he then backtracked and said he was just posting ingredients as if to imply he meant nothing by it.

Chemistry degree? We are talking key stage 3 stuff here for a lot of this everyone should know what citric acid and sodium chloride are. Any A level student and perhaps even GCSE would know the rest.
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I didn't backtrack. Someone asked what's the difference, I posted a literal ingredients list of stuff you find in energy drinks that you don't in coffee. Then you started talking about tea and lemons. I suppose for balance I should have posted the things in coffee that aren't in eg Monster.
 
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tom_e said:
The URL of that website does seem to point to a completely unbiased view point...
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Ha, yes. Like I say it was a lame quick Google. I think the points on the page specifically still stand.

tom_e said:
Also the nutritional count on a fancy iced mocha choca unicorn sprinkled latte is going to make pretty balanced reading compared to an energy drink yet again plenty of people would just class that as having a "coffee".
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That's very true.

Energize said:
Chemistry degree? We are talking key stage 3 stuff here for a lot of this everyone should know what citric acid and sodium chloride are. Any A level student and perhaps even GCSE would know the rest.
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Citric acid and sodium chloride, yes. Inositol, glucuronalactone, pyridoxine hydrochloride, cyanobalamin I doubt it very much... I'm sure we can agree to disagree on that.
 
vindassius said:
Now ive been a red bull / energy drinking person for easily 20yrs, I don't want people to give me the low down on "its bad" etc etc.

ive changed to sneak, local Manchester bunch of people, opposite the library, but I was wondering what is everyone else's go to drink???
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how long have you worked for sneak drinks?
 
Scam said:
Citric acid and sodium chloride, yes. Inositol, glucuronalactone, pyridoxine hydrochloride, cyanobalamin I doubt it very much... I'm sure we can agree to disagree on that.
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Yes we will have to, as from experience studying A level biology and chemistry you would be expected to know what vitamin B and sugar alcohols were, but I realise not everyone has that perspective.
 
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