NVIDIA ‘Ampere’ 8nm Graphics Cards

Jono8 · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:05

phatboy said:
Latest in from the good ship pinch of salt -

Apologies if already been shared, this thread moves so quickly

Some impressive grunt if real

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-rtx-3080-time-spy-benchmarks/

If that is the 3080, ie 2080 successor (and not the top Ti/3090 card), then it's looking good.

If it is the top card, then it is disappointing.

humbug · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:15

phatboy said:
Agreed, There are some serious mind game being played this time around I think. They both know that the hype is stupendous if the market is going to get both at the same time head to head.

If there ever was a time to drive interest, it's now

The thing is, Nvidia wouldn't be playing games like this unless they thought AMD actually had something.

phatboy · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:17

Hopefully that is the case as forces them to put the effort in which hopefully it makes it better for us all in the end

BigBANGtheory · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:20

Grim5 said:
Look, absolutely no one knows what are it is. wccftech says it's a 3080ti, videocardz says it's a 3080 and now tweak town says 3090... it's just clickbait trash

Haha that just about sums it up, are they spreading the rumour risk amongst them

humbug · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:21

phatboy said:
Hopefully that is the case as forces them to put the effort in which hopefully it makes it better for us all in the end

Exactly, i want AMD to crush Nvidia, i'm 99% sure they wont but if AMD actually do it its good for all of us, Nvidia thinking they can win without the effort is not good for us.

Illuminist · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:23

I reckon the top amd and top nvidia will be almost identical in rasterization, but nvidia will be better at RT at a higher price

Yaayuh! · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:30

Illuminist said:
I reckon the top amd and top nvidia will be almost identical in rasterization, but nvidia will be better at RT at a higher price

If that ends up being the case then I wonder if people will actually pay for the better RT.

phatboy · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:35

Then the fight for best optimisation starts rather than raw GPU grunt, again could be good for consumers if they further optimise their RT protocols after launch

Richdog · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:36

Yaayuh! said:
If that ends up being the case then I wonder if people will actually pay for the better RT.

Many people will go with Nvidia for the much better driver experience and the DLSS. The AMD 5700XT thread is showing a fair few known members with a lot of PC hardware experience talking about various driver issues, so unless AMD make big improvements in time for Big Navi then I do not want to be spending any of my time sorting out driver problems, I want to be gaming.

phatboy · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:44

Richdog said:
Many people will go with Nvidia for the much better driver experience and the DLSS. The AMD 5700XT thread is showing a fair few known members with a lot of PC hardware experience talking about various driver issues, so unless AMD make big improvements in time for Big Navi then I do not want to be spending any of my time sorting out driver problems, I want to be gaming.

This is a big thing at the moment. I am 80/20 set on getting another AMD card after my VEGA because I have had a great experience with it, but I removed a 5700xt from my basket and pulled out of completing the purchase based on all the issues that are present drivers wise at the moment. That on new hardware would be a total show stopper, imagine at review stage!

Illuminist · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:46

I think games like cyberpunk will see people paying the extra for nvidia rt preformance tbh

TNA · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:50

Illuminist said:
I think games like cyberpunk will see people paying the extra for nvidia rt preformance tbh

Yeah, I get the feeling this will be the case also, assuming the RT is any good.

varkanoid · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:52

Richdog said:
Many people will go with Nvidia for the much better driver experience and the DLSS. The AMD 5700XT thread is showing a fair few known members with a lot of PC hardware experience talking about various driver issues, so unless AMD make big improvements in time for Big Navi then I do not want to be spending any of my time sorting out driver problems, I want to be gaming.

I wouldnt say its hardware experience that was needed I think its installing the latest drivers as soon as they arrive instead of waiting a bit to see if there is an issue. Bit like "Early Adopter" syndrome. At least with Nvidia when they BS up the drivers a hotfix comes along in a week or so. Instead AMD have just buried there head in the sand. I only just got my 5700XT. Read up on the drivers to see if there were any issues, saw all the complaints about the May/June ones, went for the April ones and not had an issue.

Quartz · 22 Jun 2020 at 15:56

And the A100 is now avbailable in PCIe form

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-ampere-a100-pcie-gpu-launch-20x-volta/

Twinz · 22 Jun 2020 at 16:00

Richdog said:
Many people will go with Nvidia for the much better driver experience and the DLSS. The AMD 5700XT thread is showing a fair few known members with a lot of PC hardware experience talking about various driver issues, so unless AMD make big improvements in time for Big Navi then I do not want to be spending any of my time sorting out driver problems, I want to be gaming.

I'm a gadget geek that likes to tinker with stuff, and I didn't appreciate what Nvidia did with Turing, so I'll buy AMD if they offer the price/performance at the high end.

However, I won't recommend AMD to my friends if their new GPU's *require* tinkering.

Richdog · 22 Jun 2020 at 16:18

Twinz said:
I'm a gadget geek that likes to tinker with stuff, and I didn't appreciate what Nvidia did with Turing, so I'll buy AMD if they offer the price/performance at the high end.

However, I won't recommend AMD to my friends if their new GPU's *require* tinkering.

Luckily I skipped Turing with my trusty GTX 1070m (RIP my love) so have no such issues.

Kelt · 22 Jun 2020 at 16:40

Richdog said:
Many people will go with Nvidia for the much better driver experience and the DLSS. The AMD 5700XT thread is showing a fair few known members with a lot of PC hardware experience talking about various driver issues, so unless AMD make big improvements in time for Big Navi then I do not want to be spending any of my time sorting out driver problems, I want to be gaming.

I recently specced a pre-built system for my brother (who isn't into PC tech at all) and this is the reason I didn't spec an AMD card, even though he has a freesync monitor.

He wanted a system as hands-off as possible, and really didn't want him to be having this kind of issue.

TT158 · 22 Jun 2020 at 17:01

Jono8 said:
If that is the 3080, ie 2080 successor (and not the top Ti/3090 card), then it's looking good.

If it is the top card, then it is disappointing.

Weren't there rumours that these new nvidia cards would be hitting 2.5ghz? If that's the case and the card there has 25% left in the tank, it'd still be a good jump even if it's the 3090, no?

Besty · 22 Jun 2020 at 17:51

Richdog said:
Many people will go with Nvidia for the much better driver experience and the DLSS. The AMD 5700XT thread is showing a fair few known members with a lot of PC hardware experience talking about various driver issues, so unless AMD make big improvements in time for Big Navi then I do not want to be spending any of my time sorting out driver problems, I want to be gaming.

I haven’t had any issues with my 5700XT since they fixed the drivers at the end of Feb. I had one dodgy driver package and that was when they decided to do a big release at Christmas.

350 gaming hours now clocked since they fixed the drivers
and no driver problems.

Stu999 · 22 Jun 2020 at 17:52

Quartz said:
And the A100 is now avbailable in PCIe form

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-ampere-a100-pcie-gpu-launch-20x-volta/

Can it run Crysis?