HP Reverb G2 uk release date?

G2 gets slightly better framerate performance on the same system than quest over link (!).


Conclusion was this was because of the extra workload needed to compress the video stream over the cable.
 
danlightbulb said:
G2 gets slightly better framerate performance on the same system than quest over link (!).


Conclusion was this was because of the extra workload needed to compress the video stream over the cable.
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Good news, but confused how this was tested (haven't watched the vid tbf, can't watch at work. Well I could, as I'm still WFH, but I'm a good conscientious employee. Although I am here reading non work related stuff, and now typing out a post on here. So perhaps I'm not.). The resolution of the quest is way lower, are we saying that if I run the G2 at full res 2160x2160 per eye it will better the framerate that I'm getting with the Quest for, say Assetto Corsa, at the Quest's much smaller res? If so, that's pretty amazing :)
 
danswan said:
Good news, but confused how this was tested (haven't watched the vid tbf, can't watch at work. Well I could, as I'm still WFH, but I'm a good conscientious employee. Although I am here reading non work related stuff, and now typing out a post on here. So perhaps I'm not.). The resolution of the quest is way lower, are we saying that if I run the G2 at full res 2160x2160 per eye it will better the framerate that I'm getting with the Quest for, say Assetto Corsa, at the Quest's much smaller res? If so, that's pretty amazing :)
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I think that's what he is saying yes. A game may behave differently to the benchmark though I guess.

I ran the benchmark for myself and got 12fps. That's half of what MRTV got and he has a 2070S and I have an RX480, so I guess that's about right.
 
danswan said:
Good news, but confused how this was tested (haven't watched the vid tbf, can't watch at work. Well I could, as I'm still WFH, but I'm a good conscientious employee. Although I am here reading non work related stuff, and now typing out a post on here. So perhaps I'm not.). The resolution of the quest is way lower, are we saying that if I run the G2 at full res 2160x2160 per eye it will better the framerate that I'm getting with the Quest for, say Assetto Corsa, at the Quest's much smaller res? If so, that's pretty amazing :)
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The standard 100% render resolution in steam is actually pretty similar.
 
Zeeflyboy said:
The standard 100% render resolution in steam is actually pretty similar.
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Ahh - forgot SteamVR would be the common denominator. AC, and in fact all the sim racing games I play have a native Oculus mode, so I would guess this should perform better, all things being equal??
 
Just got an update from System Active. HP have said they're due to ship in October, and all pre-orders will be delivered immediately.
 
Not sure what to make of this, but this is from Ryan Handy, who is VR Quality Manager at HP - I'm in a G2 facebook group:

"None of these dates are correct. We have not made an official ship date. Some companies, due to local laws, need to put some kind of date in so they pick one.
We are still on track and there are no delays."

"With G1, we announced a ship date and we missed it as bugs crept in and we got eaten alive... then there were the issue that were found AFTER we changed the date and launched.
We're playing it safer this time around and we are on-track internally"
 
Mmm, September, October, not so bad. Maybe the Nvidia 3000 series cards will be available by then.

Interest has been high, which is a good thing for VR. I guess this means too there's a little longer to wait for MS flight sims VR support.

Still can't wait personally. It's a real peachy time for VR this last quarter with several high profile releases, new HMD's and the NV hardware hopefully lowering the barrier a little.
 
lokiss said:
Mmm, September, October, not so bad. Maybe the Nvidia 3000 series cards will be available by then.

Interest has been high, which is a good thing for VR. I guess this means too there's a little longer to wait for MS flight sims VR support.

Still can't wait personally. It's a real peachy time for VR this last quarter with several high profile releases, new HMD's and the NV hardware hopefully lowering the barrier a little.
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Yes we have new hardware but we have no new games.

I think the VR community generally is very easily distracted from the big issue at hand, which is we simply don't have many new upcoming games coming out which are of a high quality.

I'm personally fairly worried for high end PCVR. I'd hate to dump £600-£2000 more into hardware and be left with the same situation of.. what do I play next.

For those new to VR, its a great time. Grab a Reverb for £550-650 and enjoy high fidelity VR with some amazing games. But for veterans who've played through a lot of what VR has to offer, I'm not sure what we're really doing.
 
aoaaron said:
Yes we have new hardware but we have no new games.
For those new to VR, its a great time. Grab a Reverb for £550-650 and enjoy high fidelity VR with some amazing games. But for veterans who've played through a lot of what VR has to offer, I'm not sure what we're really doing.
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Most of the best games have been Oculus exclusives, and now they seem to be concentrating on stand-alone, so don't seem to be commissioning new PC games. There are two titles - Lone Echo 2, and Medal Of Honor - which are currently MIA, where no information has been released for months.

On the PC side we've had some decent games, but it seems that the only ones with a reasonable amount of content are the VR conversions, like Skyrim VR.
 
For those into their sims the VR landscape has never been better though... almost (f1 being the obvious exception) every racing sim has good VR support now, and I'm really looking forward to being able to run ACC at improved settings with a next gen GPU and the G2 - pretty sure it'll feel like a whole new game. FS2020 obviously is a boon to VR sims too, but so is the vulcan revision to X-plane and planned content/render graph engine for DCS, upcoming Normandy expansion to IL2 and so on.

I do admit outside of sims there is a bit of a dearth of VR content for the forseeable, or at least that we know about. I am looking forward to star wars squadrons but that's about all I can think of that excites me currently outside of the sims.
 
Zeeflyboy said:
For those into their sims the VR landscape has never been better though... almost (f1 being the obvious exception) every racing sim has good VR support now, and I'm really looking forward to being able to run ACC at improved settings with a next gen GPU and the G2 - pretty sure it'll feel like a whole new game. FS2020 obviously is a boon to VR sims too, but so is the vulcan revision to X-plane and planned content/render graph engine for DCS, upcoming Normandy expansion to IL2 and so on.

I do admit outside of sims there is a bit of a dearth of VR content for the forseeable, or at least that we know about. I am looking forward to star wars squadrons but that's about all I can think of that excites me currently outside of the sims.
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It does feel like the future of VR at the moment is Sims. It's gotta be hard to convince AAA developers to build VR games when the market is so tiny vs mainstream PC and console.
 
zero71 said:
It does feel like the future of VR at the moment is Sims. It's gotta be hard to convince AAA developers to build VR games when the market is so tiny vs mainstream PC and console.
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For me, VR is appealing for sim driving, with anything else being an interesting distraction. Until the locomotion issue is solved, or I can afford a large house with a massive VR room, that's how it's likely to stay for me. Even Alyx I haven't got anywhere near to finishing, it feels really claustrophobic as I keep getting the guardian warning popping up all the time, or banging my arms off objects in my room which is massively immersion destroying. The only way I can get a space of 2m x 2m or bigger is by moving furniture, which I'm not going to do regularly. Or going in the garden and having my neighbours wondering what tipped me over the edge :)
 
danswan said:
For me, VR is appealing for sim driving, with anything else being an interesting distraction. Until the locomotion issue is solved, or I can afford a large house with a massive VR room, that's how it's likely to stay for me. Even Alyx I haven't got anywhere near to finishing, it feels really claustrophobic as I keep getting the guardian warning popping up all the time, or banging my arms off objects in my room which is massively immersion destroying. The only way I can get a space of 2m x 2m or bigger is by moving furniture, which I'm not going to do regularly. Or going in the garden and having my neighbours wondering what tipped me over the edge :)
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This is why the Quest is so amazing - the ability to take the headset to larger playspaces. I've tried mine with a maxed out guardian in an empty office floor and it was incredible.
 
TBF I've thought about visiting the office which is still empty with everyone WFH. Not just the Quest I'd need to take though, would need the whole PC to play Alyx
 
for anyone thinking of ordering a G2, the "UK" price is now £639, however if you order from a rainforest in spain its 599 euros, which is about £540, says it starts shipping 1st October for delivery 5th - 7th October
 
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