AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

r22snapper · 23 Aug 2020 at 11:49

I went to the Vega 64 from a 1080 which I only kept for a week because it didn't work with Freesync at the time. The Vega 64 was great fun to tweak and was pretty decent once done but it was a total disaster out of the box.

five8five · 23 Aug 2020 at 13:04

TNA said:
Wish there was a "Hall of Shame" thread, but there is not and never will be

Pity

TNA said:
I just say it as it is. Happy to bash both AMD and Nvidia when called for

Exactly. At times they can both be as bad as each other. They're both massive corporations geared up to make money..........from us

Th0nt said:
Your right though, giving the brand a hard time for what they are doesnt equate to being a fanboy for the alternative choice.

Should've been clearer, it was full on raging at times, "Nvidia will never get my money" rhetoric. It was just so OTT, it was hard to take seriously

EastCoastHandle · 23 Aug 2020 at 13:55

Richdog said:
That is absolute and utter nonsense, why do you write silly and ignorant statements like this instead of spending 2 minutes doing some basic research? Gaming is a huge part of Nvidias profits, just under half at the moment https://www.google.com/amp/s/ventur...tions-with-revenue-up-50-to-3-87-billion/amp/

You should take your own advice. Instead of Nvidia dropping prices with their existing lineup with 2000 series they introduce super variants and kept prices higher. If you took 2 minutes of googling you would have known this.

Now that the data center is more profitable they don't care about amd pricing (IMO). Therefore it's not about how you feel about me saying it. If you think the 3000 series is going to be cheaper you are just making a baseless claims without merit. All I'm doing is presenting to you facts based on history. Which will repeat itself.

And just an fyi gaming isnt a huge part of nvidias profits. Its the data center. If you actually read your own link you would know that. So do me a favor read your own link. And stop posting nonsense based on ignorant statements which contradict your own source.

Edit:
Besides the higher prices I am sure there are many here that require the purchase of another psu. As the minimum spec. for the 12pin connector is 850watt. So not only will you pay more for the 3000 series you also will need to buy a beefier psu an added cost. So far there is no information that suggest rdna 2 requires this.

Therefore, if those 3090 do cost 2k add a 100+ more for a new psu.

gpuerrilla · 23 Aug 2020 at 17:38

I have an 850w, but I wont be buying the 3090 anyway. Not unless its £600 which it might be in 5 years time.

LoadsaMoney · 23 Aug 2020 at 18:04

EastCoastHandle said:
Edit:
Besides the higher prices I am sure there are many here that require the purchase of another psu. As the minimum spec. for the 12pin connector is 850watt. So not only will you pay more for the 3000 series you also will need to buy a beefier psu an added cost. So far there is no information that suggest rdna 2 requires this.

Therefore, if those 3090 do cost 2k add a 100+ more for a new psu.

No you won't, was 1000w PSU for the LC Vega 64, and no one had to buy a beefier one, as even a decent 600w could run em.

EastCoastHandle · 23 Aug 2020 at 18:39

LoadsaMoney said:
No you won't, was 1000w PSU for the LC Vega 64, and no one had to buy a beefier one, as even a decent 600w could run em.

But you are forgetting one thing. The LC vegan 64 didn't require a 12pin connector on a higher nm die shrink. Therefore, a false equivalence.
Beefier psu to all how buy them.

I will lol at threads with that card using a 600watt psu with ctd, etc though.

LoadsaMoney · 23 Aug 2020 at 18:44

EastCoastHandle said:
But you are forgetting one thing. The LCD began 64 didn't require a 12pin connector 4 on a higher die shrink. Therefore, a false equivalence.
Beefier psu to all how buy them.

I will lol at threads with that card using a 600watt psu with card, etc though.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 23 Aug 2020 at 19:24

I have a 450W SFX PSU and a mini-ITX system,so will stick with cards which use two six pin or one 8 pin PCI-E power connector.

Illuminist · 23 Aug 2020 at 20:19

The vegan 64 lol,

EastCoastHandle · 23 Aug 2020 at 20:22

Illuminist said:
The vegan 64 lol,

JediFragger · 23 Aug 2020 at 20:24

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I have a 450W SFX PSU and a mini-ITX system,so will stick with cards which use two six pin or one 8 pin PCI-E power connector.

Tbf I can see the 3060 being a little cracker if they can keep the power envelope down to this kind of level :cool:

five8five · 23 Aug 2020 at 20:37

EastCoastHandle said:
Therefore, if those 3090 do cost 2k add a 100+ more for a new psu.

2k.Why the need to exaggerate? There's absolutely no need to because 1.4k is bad enough

gpuerrilla · 23 Aug 2020 at 20:49

JediFragger said:
Tbf I can see the 3060 being a little cracker if they can keep the power envelope down to this kind of level

Downsides are its getting released a lot later and what you expecting its capable of (doubt it will be beating a 2080Ti maybe on par)?

Rroff · 23 Aug 2020 at 20:50

He really does reach to pop at nVidia - most people who'd buy those kind of cards are already on beefy PSUs - I've got an 860 watt in my gaming PC as it is.

JediFragger · 23 Aug 2020 at 20:51

Th0nt said:
Downsides are its getting released a lot later and what you expecting its capable of (doubt it will be beating a 2080Ti maybe on par)?

With a little luck it'll be on par or just under and def beat it with DLSS 2.0 and it's superior Tensor-core count. But yes, November/December I should imagine.

If I was on 1440p (which I am) it'll be worth waiting for. I'll prob go 3070/3080 though.

gpuerrilla · 23 Aug 2020 at 20:53

JediFragger said:
With a little luck it'll be on par or just under and def beat it with DLSS 2.0 and it's superior Tensor-core count. But yes, November/December I should imagine.

If I was on 1440p (which I am) it'll be worth waiting for. I'll prob go 3070/3080 though.

It would be on my hitlist if it could cope with 4k but not biting if it needs games with DLSS to be capable.

JediFragger · 23 Aug 2020 at 20:59

Th0nt said:
It would be on my hitlist if it could cope with 4k but not biting if it needs games with DLSS to be capable.

Yeah it'll be with RTX titles I should imagine, 4k still harsh as ****!

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 23 Aug 2020 at 20:59

JediFragger said:
Tbf I can see the 3060 being a little cracker if they can keep the power envelope down to this kind of level

It depends on the price,if its £400,I won't be paying that much for a 60 series GPU,as it will only have 6GB VRAM(some of the texture mods I use in Fallout 4 will easily go past 6GB of VRAM).

JediFragger · 23 Aug 2020 at 21:02

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It depends on the price,if its £400,I won't be paying that much for a 60 series GPU,as it will only have 6GB VRAM(some of the texture mods I use in Fallout 4 will easily go past 6GB of VRAM).

Yeah it probably will be especially the first few months, but the good news they probably can't backpedal on the vRam amount now that they've gone 8GB with the 2060S.

opethdisciple · 23 Aug 2020 at 21:39

When are we expecting these to release?