AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[Satchfanuk]

The 90 will be sparse as hell for a few months, and prices will only go one way.

Exactly, Gibbo will be eyeing a Lambo after these Nvidia cards launch

 

[Gerard]

Makes sense because AMD's stock has been skyrocketing in the last several hours.

On the basis of a random twitter post? Doubting it.

 

[Gerard]

The 90 will be sparse as hell for a few months, and prices will only go one way.

Whats new there? All prices ever seem to do is go up, and when gpu launches come around it's just another chance to gouge gouge gouge.

 

[4K8KW10]

On the basis of a random twitter post? Doubting it.

Do you think the investors don't have information which is not completely public or official just yet?
I doubt it.

 

[Gerard]

Do you think the investors don't have information which is not completely public or official just yet?
I doubt it.

So lets see it Mr GPU Engineer!

 

[Poneros]

I find this a little hard to understand what he means with “And GA102 will also pay a huge price”.

Beating GA104 is what most of us would have expected so while it’s nice to have confirmation of sorts I don’t find it all that interesting... what I’m interested in is how it compares to 3080 and 3090 and the terminology he uses is vague... does he mean it’ll be competitive in performance with the GA102 cards or does he just mean it’ll be above GA104 cards in perf but competitive with 102 on a price/perf level but perhaps not on a perf/perf level?

I would have liked him to have just come straight out and said it’s a direct GA102 competitor.

I'm not going to try to read his mind. My assessment remains the same: Big Navi will go trade blows with 3080, have more vram 16GB vs 10GB, close in price $800, but while it may have an advantage in rasterisation it will fall behind in terms of RT performance & will have an inferior software stack (no dlss, no cuda etc).

Sooooo a repeat of 5700 XT vs RTX 2070 but RDNA has dx12_2 features as well this time.

 

[gpuerrilla]

You get them on the CPU side as well, moaning that the 3000 series isn't cheaper by now as if its AMD's fault that Intel are producing expensive carp

This. Its like an anti-amd mindset, the neanderthal similarities is epic though. Bash them at every opportunity and blame them for the monopoly charging + tax on top prices. Yet if your not willing to sample them on the good days, all your vested interest is in making the brand your loyal to slightly cheaper. That's not quite the same thing.

If Turing were the same price as what AMD were charging, you would be laughing at AMD and saying up your game mate. The jury will be out, if there is a decent enough rival to the 3070, 3080 who's nailing their colours to the mast.

 

[gpuerrilla]

I'm not going to try to read his mind. My assessment remains the same: Big Navi will go trade blows with 3080, have more vram 16GB vs 10GB, close in price $800, but while it may have an advantage in rasterisation it will fall behind in terms of RT performance & will have an inferior software stack (no dlss, no cuda etc).

Sooooo a repeat of 5700 XT vs RTX 2070 but RDNA has dx12_2 features as well this time.

I agree with you, all but the part on they will have some form of raytracing to offer, not as good but can sail off the dev tricks played off the consoles for first couple of years.

 

[elroberto]

Choo Choooo

Always reminds me of this guy -

 

[FoxEye]

I find this a little hard to understand what he means with “And GA102 will also pay a huge price”.

Beating GA104 is what most of us would have expected so while it’s nice to have confirmation of sorts I don’t find it all that interesting... what I’m interested in is how it compares to 3080 and 3090 and the terminology he uses is vague... does he mean it’ll be competitive in performance with the GA102 cards or does he just mean it’ll be above GA104 cards in perf but competitive with 102 on a price/perf level but perhaps not on a perf/perf level?

I would have liked him to have just come straight out and said it’s a direct GA102 competitor.

I think he isn't a native English speaker and missed out a word.

"And GA102 purchasers will also pay a huge price."

 

[Zeeflyboy]

I think he isn't a native English speaker and missed out a word.

"And GA102 purchasers will also pay a huge price."

That got a legit chuckle... well done

 

[Satchfanuk]

I'm still amazed by the lack of leaks from AMD this gen, it's not like them which is both concerning and intriguing haha.

The only thing stopping me from fearing the worst is, ironically, the leaks about Nvidia's 30 series.

If AMD had a disaster on their hands, Nvidia would be giving us GA104 as the 3080

 

[willhub]

Wrong thead doh

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

I think he isn't a native English speaker and missed out a word.

"And GA102 purchasers will also pay a huge price."

I hope AMD doesn't have more VRAM as standard on the higher end models,we might run out of Rolos!

 

[LePhuronn]

Do you think the investors don't have information which is not completely public or official just yet?

Are you saying AMD's share price is going up because of insider trading? Y'know, illegal things? Investors are not privy to classified information. You do talk some tripe.

 

[LePhuronn]

I'm still amazed by the lack of leaks from AMD this gen, it's not like them which is both concerning and intriguing haha.

Well Raja and his marketing team aren't there to hype the holy hell out of nonsense, so that explains the lack of leaks. Besides, if AMD really are bringing the fight this gen, they're not going to say a damn thing until Nvidia spill on Ampere.

We could start seeing some leaks around midday/early afternoon to start raining on the 5pm Nvidia parade, but I'm expecting some actual meat to start coming out on Wednesday. Let the green team bask in the glory of their 600W-capable power connector and 400W TDP and then start some counterpoints. RT twice as good as Turing I reckon, which makes it half as good as Ampere

 

[Howling]

Let the green team bask in the glory of their 600W-capable power connector and 400W TDP and then start some counterpoints. RT twice as good as Turing I reckon, which makes it half as good as Ampere

This is the best bit of evidence that AMD actually have something threatening imho.. the fact that nVidia needed to push out a 350w 2.7slot monster card... I'm not sure they'd do that under normal circumstances. Either AMD has something, or nVidia's architecture didn't scale as well as they'd hoped/planned and they ****** up this gen... I can see either scenario being accurate.

 

[Grim5]

Are you saying AMD's share price is going up because of insider trading? Y'know, illegal things? Investors are not privy to classified information. You do talk some tripe.

Insider trading is quite common, however its generally hard to prove. That being said, when you're dealing with a large company like AMD that has a huge market cap and ample market liquidity, the odds any inside trading affecting the share price is pretty hilarious, it's almost impossible unless someone is making billion dollar trades.

 

[Rroff]

This is the best bit of evidence that AMD actually have something threatening imho.. the fact that nVidia needed to push out a 350w 2.7slot monster card... I'm not sure they'd do that under normal circumstances. Either AMD has something, or nVidia's architecture didn't scale as well as they'd hoped/planned and they ****** up this gen... I can see either scenario being accurate.

Or nVidia are betting the farm on something people haven't caught on to yet

 

[FoxEye]

Or nVidia are betting the farm on something people haven't caught on to yet

An especially cold winter?