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I don't remember the 970 being a £650 part.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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I don't remember the 970 being a £650 part.
Urgh....again. I dont mean in price. I mean in stature. the 970 was great price/perf and became very popular for a long time. That's what I mean.
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Do we even know when AMD will be announcing the new cards, i want to wait to see what they come out with but i don't want to be waiting till Christmas.
What on earth are you on about??
How am I panic buying?? I just said I want to 3080! I can and do plan to wait till AIB cards come out, I'm in no rush!
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Pricing's been that crap in the last few years that a £650 none flagship part is receiving critical acclaim.
Peak 2020.
Peak 2020.
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Don't you think if Nvidia is being more aggressive this generation,and even bundling a game on launch,they know something we don't?? Did they do that with Turing or Kepler??
You literally said you don't care about what AMD releases,because you like the look of the RTX3080 so have made your mind up. This based on zero reviews,and without even seeing what AMD has out. This is exactly what happened with the GTX200 series. It was powerful,people jumped onto it,and merely weeks later ATI launched the HD4870,and GTX200 series prices had to be dropped. GTX680 dropping two months after the HD7970,etc.
I knew some people got burnt by that,so ever since I would never buy a new AMD/Nvidia GPU on launch,if I know both companies have their releases within say 2 months of each other. In the context of how long we keep GPUs for I don't understand why rushing into these things makes any sense. It was the same with people buying Core i5 7600K CPUs weeks before the Ryzen 5 launched.
I could even understand if AMD said tommorrow,its available in Jan 2021,yonks after Cyberpunk 2077 is out,and people not bothering. We don't even have that.
Seriously we have AMD's new CPUs,new GPUs,consoles and so many launches from now until November.
Maybe its a generational thing.
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AMD need to get their act sorted frankly.
As much as I expect poor pricing all around, at least I'm more comfortable buying when everything's on the table.
The 1080 did launch at the same price $699 so whats so bad about that? All we need is some good AMD competition which forces the 3080 to drop down to $599 followed by a 3080ti launch at $699 and we're back to Pascal pricing.
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This,at least you know 100% you have gotten what is best,even if it is Nvidia.
Before the consoles are released,and they are released in November.
People forget Turing pricing was panned at launch too,when compared to Maxwell. 80 series part for 80TI series pricing.
The GTX1080TI launch happened much later,and pushed pricing downwards to a more acceptable RRP.
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Probably something to do with the 980 having been $550, so $150 jump is pretty bad. Hence the old previous few years of poor pricing.
At the current pricing, there's not a chance the 3080Ti is $699
However, I fully understand that Nvidia's pricing could be *much* worse.
I am fully excited to see 3080 review, and see how big Navi comes out.
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I don't think the situation is that pinkish for Nvidia, though.
RTX 3080 is GA102 or 626 sq. mm, which should equal to 1,254 sq. mm 16/12nm GPU.
RTX 2080 Ti with TU102 is 754 sq. mm.
If linear scaling die-size - to - performance, then you should get this 25-30% higher performance from a 942-980 sq. mm 16/12nm GPU.
I still feel that it's a bit of the on the weak side rather than too exceptional performance from Ampere.
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Only if AMD have something decent which pushes the RTX3080,so Nvidia pushes a slightly faster RTX3080TI out. Personally AMD needs to release some info now,because the hype is so much I don't think many will bother waiting now.
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With the 3080 literally launching middle of the month, then AMD will need to do something quick.
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That is the problem,like with Apple launches,now Nvidia launches have a similar effect. Its quite obvious AMD will be launching something soon,but the hype machine is so big,they risk nobody "caring" what they release. People will literally buy now without waiting for reviews of Ampere,as slides from Nvidia are good enough.
The issue is AMD should have launched earlier,but we all know if they that,people would still hold off for Ampere anyway. Personally I am quite patient like all my gaming friends,we can quite happily wait,and see what is released,but apparently many won't.
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I was hoping the new Nvidia cards would be a disappointment so AMD can wreak havoc with big navi and take back market share. I'm worried for them.
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1080 barely qualified as a mid-range part in terms of what could be made and previous generations - the 3080 is at least a bit better in that regard though it still isn't an amazing position.
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