AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

humbug · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:29

Martini1991 said:
Ha ha, give them a bit of time at least.

Hopefully AMD have something concrete at the end of the month, or the 3070 launch in October's going to be painful.

There needs to be a Super Sue kitchen event in days from now... Red Hair dye and all...

montymint · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:30

AMD have basically until the 14th to at least tease something that'll take on the 3080 or they'll lose sales to people unwilling to wait.

Aretak · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:31

humbug said:
Already, right now, the amount of noise coming out of AMD should be deafening, they should be doing all they can to take some of the attention away from Nvidia, its exactly what Intel and Nvidia would be doing.

Silence.

lol

It's been less than four hours since the stream ended. What exactly do you expect them to have done in that time? I have literally no doubt that AMD have been keeping their powder dry in order to see Nvidia's hand and then respond accordingly. Whether that's through having a just plain better product (unlikely, I grant you) or adjusting their own pricing to be competitive, there will be things going on behind the scenes. It doesn't matter if it's tomorrow or a week from now. You can't buy Nvidia's new cards yet. AMD just need to show something before they launch.

Gerard · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:32

humbug said:
They are all going to get a sock when the reviews come out.

The cards come with a sock as a free gift? Guess some people need to relieve the excitement somewhere.... :eek:

humbug · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:33

Shock ^^^^ sawwy...

Aretak said:
lol

It's been less than four hours since the stream ended. What exactly do you expect them to have done in that time? I have literally no doubt that AMD have been keeping their powder dry in order to see Nvidia's hand and then respond accordingly. Whether that's through having a just plain better product (unlikely, I grant you) or adjusting their own pricing to be competitive, there will be things going on behind the scenes. It doesn't matter if it's tomorrow or a week from now. You can't buy Nvidia's new cards yet. AMD just need to show something before they launch.

It's not that, i get this nagging feeling this thread will go craving any real info for weeks to come yet.

RBImGuy · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:35

Aretak said:
lol

It's been less than four hours since the stream ended. What exactly do you expect them to have done in that time? I have literally no doubt that AMD have been keeping their powder dry in order to see Nvidia's hand and then respond accordingly. Whether that's through having a just plain better product (unlikely, I grant you) or adjusting their own pricing to be competitive, there will be things going on behind the scenes. It doesn't matter if it's tomorrow or a week from now. You can't buy Nvidia's new cards yet. AMD just need to show something before they launch.

yea they have a plan, question is if they anticipated the price tho.
but they are rdy

Aretak · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:36

humbug said:
It's not that, i get this nagging feeling this thread will go craving any real info for weeks to come yet.

Well, then Radeon will be dead we can hold a funeral for it. But let's wait and see first.

montymint · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:36

humbug said:
Shock ^^^^ sawwy...

It's not that, i get this nagging feeling this thread will go craving any real info for weeks to come yet.

Didn;t that happen with the 480 hype thread? Then by the time we got information it was gonna kill nvidia for like £150

Martini1991 · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:36

I guess AMD could do something as simple as a tweet with a benchmark result as a quick gap tease, but they're never going to.
I can see Nvidia launching the 3080, doubling the performance of the 5700XT, then the 3070 launching and being like 70% faster than the 5700XT.

And then AMD just releasing a 3070 +10% performance for $599.

montymint · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:37

Martini1991 said:
I guess AMD could do something as simple as a tweet with a benchmark result as a quick gap tease, but they're never going to.
I can see Nvidia launching the 3080, doubling the performance of the 5700XT, then the 3070 launching and being like 70% faster than the 5700XT.

And then AMD just releasing a 3070 +10% performance for $599.

It'd be a shame but if they did my cash would be on a 3080, which would keep me happy for 3 years at least

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:42

The DF video said the RTX3080 was 70% faster than the RTX2080 at 4K:
https://tpucdn.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-5600-xt-tuf-evo/images/relative-performance_3840-2160.png

Now remember,some of that might be done to the RTX2080 only have 8GB of VRAM too.

A few quick calculations,put the RTX3080 as being double the performance of an RX5700XT at 4K.

RavenXXX2 · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:43

AMD better start that 5700 fire sale asap.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:45

RavenXXX2 said:
AMD better start that 5700 fire sale asap.

The same for all the Turing GPUs.

Its worse for Nvidia as those £1000 RTX2080TI GPUs are not worth so much now!

NightSt@lk3r · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:45

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Its worse for Nvidia as those £1000 RTX2080TI GPUs are not worth so much now!

To be fair they were never "worth" that anyway

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:48

NightSt@lk3r said:
To be fair they were never "worth" that anyway

humbug · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:48

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The DF video said the RTX3080 was 70% faster than the RTX2080 at 4K:
https://tpucdn.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-5600-xt-tuf-evo/images/relative-performance_3840-2160.png

Now remember,some of that might be done to the RTX2080 only have 8GB of VRAM too.

A few quick calculations,put the RTX3080 as being double the performance of an RX5700XT at 4K.

DF said these are Nvidia selected games.

One wonders how much unofficial DLSS was used here, that's the thing about having DLSS prebacked into drivers, how much is native rasterisation and how much of it, if anything is a bit of sneaky cheating, would you ever know if the 4K image you set is not actually 1800P upscaled unless you did a lot of scrutinizing of it.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:51

humbug said:
DF said these are Nvidia selected games.

One wonders how much unofficial DLSS was used here, that's the thing about having DLSS prebacked into drivers, how much is native rasterisation and how much of it, if anything is a bit of sneaky cheating, would you ever know if the 4K image you set is not actually 1800P upscaled unless you did a lot of scrutinizing of it.

Well what I was getting,is if there is an 80CU RDNA2,providing there isn't some screw-up,AMD might get close to the RTX3080.

muon · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:54

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The same for all the Turing GPUs.

Its worse for Nvidia as those £1000 RTX2080TI GPUs are not worth so much now!

There is hardly any 2080ti stock left. 2080 super isn't even listed here.

edit:

Although the latter might have been an accident when they put the 3080 and 3090 on.

humbug · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:55

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Well what I was getting,is if there is an 80CU RDNA2,providing there isn't some screw-up,AMD might get close to the RTX3080.

That's not the point i was making, how would you know if you set your game to 4K (No DLSS) and the driver sets it to 1800P and DLSS upscales it to 4K, you don't know that, its happening at the driver level and as far as your concerned you're at native 4K.

Basically a cheat.

RBImGuy · 1 Sep 2020 at 21:56

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Well what I was getting,is if there is an 80CU RDNA2,providing there isn't some screw-up,AMD might get close to the RTX3080.

They will beat the 3080

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