AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[Dontrocktheboat]

Tick tock AMD.

Release some news or a timeline of your new products. Or lose a massive chunk of the new sales. Two weeks left.

 

[HEADRAT]

Yeah you've just read it wrong. The 3080 is the new 2080ti, not the 3090. As in the 3080 is the new top range card and the 3090 is almost the Titan like card. Only loaded people are buying the 3090. The 3080/70 are actually good vfm and I'll be suprised if AMD do anything to beat it. Dangerous game for AMD right now, they need to release something better for cheaper or lose even more of a market share sadly.

Yeah I'm not sure of that, as the 3090 is only $300 approx more than the 2080ti that will be the natural progression, I don't see 2080ti purchasers moving to 3080?

 

[Devrij]

Exactly that, we don't know what AMDs response is yet so it's very easy to get over excited by £1200 performance (even if that performance leap from Nvidia was only 30% for a massive price premium) for £465, we need to know what AMD will deliver.

I very much hope they do deliver something great.

I must admit that, having saved up all year for a new GPU to replace my ageing 980ti, I'm really going to struggle to hold out if AMD don't tell me something that gives me a reason to wait. I know that isn't logical, but frankly I don't want to wait and see if demand goes through the roof and see the price gouging start when one side takes the crown before making my purchase. Also, I just want a new gpu now. If AMD said something like "we're gonna beat the 3080 for less money" then I'd hold out, but it's really going to take something like that.

 

[Devrij]

Yeah I'm not sure of that, as the 3090 is only $300 approx more than the 2080ti that will be the natural progression, I don't see 2080ti purchasers moving to 3080?

If they were smart and sold their 2080ti early before prices fell through the floor, then they could get a nice perf boost and literally come out with money in their pocket by buying a 3080. Doesn't seem to bad to me. For those that held onto their cards, yeah they need to either sell asap or just keep them and enjoy them.

 

[HEADRAT]

If they were smart and sold their 2080ti early before prices fell through the floor, then they could get a nice perf boost and literally come out with money in their pocket by buying a 3080. Doesn't seem to bad to me. For those that held onto their cards, yeah they need to either sell asap or just keep them and enjoy them.

Yeah but they guys that bought the 2080ti aren't too worried about the initial cost of cards are they, that market will be going 3090?

 

[Devrij]

Yeah but they guys that bought the 2080ti aren't too worried about the initial cost of cards are they, that market will be going 3090?

Yeah if you have more money than you know what to do with and you just want the best (sounds like a 2080ti owner to me), then yeah you're probably right.

 

[Quartz]

Yeah I'm not sure of that, as the 3090 is only $300 approx more than the 2080ti that will be the natural progression, I don't see 2080ti purchasers moving to 3080?

Why not? It's apparently hugely more powerful. My main concern is that we know there are higher-VRAM models in the offing - that applies to the 3070 as well. No one wants to buy a card that's going to be obsolete in a few months.

Yeah but they guys that bought the 2080ti aren't too worried about the initial cost of cards are they, that market will be going 3090?

This market is trying to decide whether to stick with his 2080 Ti until the high-VRAM 3080 is released or go for the 3090.

Of course, if AMD were to launch a competitive GPU, I'd have a third option.

 

[Begbie]

Yeah I'm not sure of that, as the 3090 is only $300 approx more than the 2080ti that will be the natural progression, I don't see 2080ti purchasers moving to 3080?

Probably move to the 3080ti when it's annouced. Though, you don't always need to move to something.

 

[K1LaW8tt5]

Yeah I'm not sure of that, as the 3090 is only $300 approx more than the 2080ti that will be the natural progression, I don't see 2080ti purchasers moving to 3080?

you assume everyone who purchased a 2080ti could actually afford to buy it, a lot of people would have banked on a repeat where their card is still worth a lot.

I imagine anyone that sold their 2080ti before the announcement is probably eyeing up a 3090 though or possible 3080ti. They have done well for themselves and can even upgrade to a 3080 if they want and have a £ little left.

 

[BigBANGtheory]

Its even better now it has complete silence. Lisa must have the NDA boys by the balls waiting to light up that phat cigar!

AMD stock price down 2% overnight, Lisa will be feeling the pressure too now

a Zen3 & Big Navi bundle with some tech advantage would put the cat amongst the pigeons

 

[docsonic]

Smoke and mirrors from Nvidia. They have only allowed us to see a very controlled glimpse of Ampere. It will take a while longer but we need independent review's as it's guaranteed that the first wave of reviews will also be very controlled.

It's exciting to see the new tech developments but I don't see the sense in paying for anything until all the cards are on the table. And that includes AMD.

 

[deuse]

AMD will start leaking the day after people have all bought, no doubt.

 

[gpuerrilla]

AMD stock price down 2% overnight, Lisa will be feeling the pressure too now

a Zen3 & Big Navi bundle with some tech advantage would put the cat amongst the pigeons

I can feel the leaks being released over the next few days

 

[TNA]

I think people with sense learned a long time ago. I didn't buy Fury, Vega or Radeon 7 or Bulldozer, Piledriver etc. Doesn't mean 3600/3700/3800/3900X etc are no good. What about Athlon 64, 4870/290/5870 etc. They can't always hit it out of the park BUT they can sometimes.

+1

One could have said the same about Intel, now look at what is happening. Soon when Zen 3 hits Intel will likely lose its marginal lead in gaming too.

AMD will start leaking the day after people have all bought, no doubt.

Lol. This is possible, AMD do make some funny choices at times. But I doubt it.

 

[gpuerrilla]

+1

One could have said the same about Intel, now look at what is happening. Soon when Zen 3 hits Intel will likely lose its marginal lead in gaming too.

Oh no, no no @TNA. What have you learner?

Mindshare still think Intel are the gaming mecca..

 

[TNA]

Oh no, no no @TNA. What have you learner?

Mindshare still think Intel are the gaming mecca..

Yea, deuse comes to mind. Lol

 

[HEADRAT]

a Zen3 & Big Navi bundle with some tech advantage would put the cat amongst the pigeons

It's certainly an option that AMD has that Nvidia does not , I would love a "bundle".

 

[RBImGuy]

Smoke and mirrors from Nvidia. They have only allowed us to see a very controlled glimpse of Ampere. It will take a while longer but we need independent review's as it's guaranteed that the first wave of reviews will also be very controlled.

It's exciting to see the new tech developments but I don't see the sense in paying for anything until all the cards are on the table. And that includes AMD.

Yea none want a buyers remorse happening like 2080ti owners atm.

 

[JediFragger]

It's certainly an option that AMD has that Nvidia does not , I would love a "bundle".

Agreed, shame AMD are about as savvy as a brick.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The RTX3080 has a very cut down GA102 die like the GTX780 had a very cut down GK110.

If you look at the 80TI series they tended to have almost the fully enabled die and that is what the 90 series has.

So when yields are better or if AMD actually can compete,expect to see an RTX3080TI drop with less VRAM than the RTX3090,but the same core configuration. The RTX3090 also has a cut down die - remember the Turing generation had two Titan X models so expect the RTX3090 to get an update with a fully enabled die at some point.