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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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Captain said:
Surely if AMD have a card capable of beating the 3070, 3080 and matching the 3090, they would be throwing it in everyone's faces right now to persuade people not to buy Nvidia?
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the could do but id expect something next week, as amd will have their own timeline as far as releasing what they do have. if they can show something a day before the launch of the 3000's series which matches it and say it will be cheaper it will make a lot of people hold off buying, the problem is if they know they wont have stock for a release until say mid october they cant release too much as they will want to put bits out weekly to keep people interested. if they wernt planning to release until nov or later due to console launches and being under contract with a non compete from sony and ms with a new product we could be waiting until december or even the new year. which honestly would be devastating for amd unless they have something that is genuinely a HUGE step up from what they currently have.

we can all take educated GUESSES at what amd may do, but for now thats all it is.
 
Captain said:
Surely if AMD have a card capable of beating the 3070, 3080 and matching the 3090, they would be throwing it in everyone's faces right now to persuade people not to buy Nvidia?
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AMD is about to launch A CPU soon so that is a much bigger business than a gpu.
desktop, server, mobile etc...

The cpu is much more important for amd as a company than the gpu is.
Think little its not hard.

and here is the fun, you can buy whatever you want.

GAC said:
the could do but id expect something next week, as amd will have their own timeline as far as releasing what they do have. if they can show something a day before the launch of the 3000's series which matches it and say it will be cheaper it will make a lot of people hold off buying, the problem is if they know they wont have stock for a release until say mid october they cant release too much as they will want to put bits out weekly to keep people interested. if they wernt planning to release until nov or later due to console launches and being under contract with a non compete from sony and ms with a new product we could be waiting until december or even the new year. which honestly would be devastating for amd unless they have something that is genuinely a HUGE step up from what they currently have.

we can all take educated GUESSES at what amd may do, but for now thats all it is.
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Mostly a bunch of nonsense happens about stuff that has no bearing on the topic whatsoever.

still buying Big Dog Navi and the upcoming Ryzen 4.
For massive gaming and fun
 
Robert896r1 said:
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From Steamhardware survey. While not the end all it's certainly the biggest platform on the PC for data collection. Interestingly and surprisingly, the 5700xt's install base is below a 2080ti even.

The only card AMD has is the old 570/580. This shows how much marketshare and generally associted minshare nvidia has. This is why many people are stating that if AMD does have something notable, start getting the info out early. Last week nvidia ate up all the news and they will next week also once reviews start rolling out.

*This* week should AMD's week to get some news out and draw some attention. Once ampere launches and people have cards in hand, reviewers start doing follow ups etc, AMD will struggle for attention. This is the perfect week to get attention.
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what isn't known is internet coffee shops also connect to steam with different users from the same internet machines.
go figure that out
 
Howling said:
Shocking how few people seem to be able to wrap their minds around this very very simple idea :p
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because a lot seem to think companies just sit on stock until the competitors do something, or they are producing cards at a slower rate and can just double production and shipping speeds.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
I figured it out - apparently Lisa Su and JHH are related,so people think they discuss release schedules at the annual family get togther. Maybe last year they had a falling out! :(
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Family feud played out in GPU release schedules. #### You Lisa for double dipping i'm pushing my GPU's out before you....
 
Robert896r1 said:
So by your account AMD shouldn't even both trying to have a high end contender? In business those low end sku's aren't high margin products and while it's great to make low end sku's from cut down silicon to get the volume out, the higher end flagships give you margin and mindshare.
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What are you on about pal? You posted nvidia have it all sewn up! Then if you look at the steam figures, how can anything AMD do change this, but drilling down into the survey you base your point on, less than 1% own a high end card..

Its responding to you saying this:
This is why many people are stating that if AMD does have something notable, start getting the info out early. Last week nvidia ate up all the news and they will next week also once reviews start rolling out.
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Your threatening that if AMD do not hurry up its all game over. When the % of gamers on high end cards from both companies is like what 2-3%? I am only using your stats here..
 
Dontrocktheboat said:
AMD's GPU timeline...

Something big is coming 2018>>>Nearly there 2019>>>>It will be BIG>>>>Geat ready 2020>>>>Big things for 2021 :rolleyes:
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Their marketing has been 100% shocking in the last few years.
Dirk Diggler said:
Surely it's fair to assume at this point, with this level of silence, that AMD have nothing to offer?
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I don't know. Because their marketing incompetence makes anything possible :p

They could have great products that they simply won't talk about, because reasons.
 
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