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Sure we are told they have all of the marketshare..
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Sure we are told they have all of the marketshare..
My objections are at a conceptual level, the dangerous precedent it sets, the hypocrisy of the "PC Master Race" and the fuelling of rampant fanboiism and blind marketing acceptance it creates.
I've already derailed the thread enough, and I certainly don't have the time nor inclination to post in the foetid soup that is the DLSS thread.
How is this calculated? How do people know that "x" bit bus must mean this much RAM?
It is interesting watching a shift from rendering games at a higher res then downscaling it to match the monitor for better image quality, to all this upscaling stuff and close enough to the same image quality.I do find it ironic,PC gamers on many forums slagged consoles off for "cheating" with upscaling last generation,but now PC has it,its the "in" thing! Welcome to our new upscaling overlords!
If you look at sales figures from Mindfactory the 5700 XT keeps up sales with the 2070 super and sold more than the 2070 did back in july 2019. The 2080 Ti has been around 1200-1600 sold per 10000 5700 XT's sold roughly. So how is it then possible for the 2080ti to have a higher share on Steam survey unless the survey isn't equally done on all machines resulting in a garbage and unusable result?
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The 2080ti was on sale for about a year longer than the 5700xt.
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Managing expectations!
If you look at sales figures from Mindfactory the 5700 XT keeps up sales with the 2070 super and sold more than the 2070 did back in july 2019. The 2080 Ti has been around 1200-1600 sold per 10000 5700 XT's sold roughly. So how is it then possible for the 2080ti to have a higher share on Steam survey unless the survey isn't equally done on all machines resulting in a garbage and unusable result?
There were posts even a decade ago on other forums,pointing how the HD5000 series marketshare,seemed to not match AIB sales reported by JPR,etc.
Would take a lot more than a year to make that a possibility when you look at the difference in sales. Somewhere between 6 to 1 and 8 to 1 in favor of the 5700 xt.
Managing expectations!
There were posts even a decade ago on other forums,pointing how the HD5000 series marketshare,seemed to not match AIB sales reported by JPR,etc.
I guess Nvidia is buying 5700 XT stock and throwing it in the bin then
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I'll offer up 'whats not to like' its the fact it cannot be universally applied without developer input. Take a game that would really benefit from DLSS say Red Dead Redemption 2.... oh look no support despite there being a real need and gain for PC gamers.
Its not the technology per se its the application and how it can be used, same as SLI it needs to be handled at the hardware and driver level to work and presumably both AMD and Nvidia will need to fix that for chiplet designs of the future.
hmmmm... 3080 virtually identical performance to a 2080TI.
8X 32Bit Memory IC's, either 1GB for 8 GB or 2GB for 16GB, 8X 32Bit = 256Bit
A 384Bit bus would have 12 32Bit IC's, 12X 32Bit = 384Bit.
Is that it? Going by the way Grim5 went on about it one would think the list would be a lot bigger than that
The only game in that list I want to play is Final Fantasy 15 which I want to revisit and as far as I know DLSS is not even in that game, it was just the demo that got it? So why is it on that list? lol.
Lol. Do you really think that will end up being true? If it did Nvidia would get so much stick that AMD may indeed reach 50% market share by the end of the generation. Nah, I do not buy it.hmmmm... 3080 virtually identical performance to a 2080TI.
8X 32Bit Memory IC's, either 1GB for 8 GB or 2GB for 16GB, 8X 32Bit = 256Bit
A 384Bit bus would have 12 32Bit IC's, 12X 32Bit = 384Bit.
Thanks for the explaination
NP ^^^ 
I'm watching this now and already found a flaw in his reasoning RE: IPC.
He said he couldn't tell the difference.
RX 480: 2304 Shaders at 1120Mhz, mem bandwidth: 256GB/s
290X: 2816 Shaders at 1050Mhz, mem bandwidth: 320GB/s
TPU Performance 1440P:
480: 100%
290X: 101%
The 290X has 22% more shaders and 30% more mem bandwidth
The 480 is 7% higher clocked.
The 290X is a much more substantial GPU than the 480 and yet the performance is the same, the 480 has a higher IPC, substantially higher IPC.
I'll keep watching.....
Bullzoid had done a follow up vid especially for you to illustrate the folly in thinking it's 130-140W
I'm watching this now and already found a flaw in his reasoning RE: IPC.
He said he couldn't tell the difference.
RX 480: 2304 Shaders at 1120Mhz, mem bandwidth: 256GB/s
290X: 2816 Shaders at 1050Mhz, mem bandwidth: 320GB/s
TPU Performance 1440P:
480: 100%
290X: 101%
The 290X has 22% more shaders and 30% more mem bandwidth
The 480 is 7% higher clocked.
The 290X is a much more substantial GPU than the 480 and yet the performance is the same, the 480 has a higher IPC, substantially higher IPC.
I'll keep watching.....
Excellent, will try it out soon then. Shame it is the rubbish 1.0 version though, but Grim5 said DLSS 1.0 was awesome, so maybe it is not so bad?
My comments were sarcastic, next time I'll use the /S
Anyone who believe Ampere would be on 5nm was nuts, but that highlighted the level of junk rumors going around from both camps. RDNA 2 rumours have been all over the show too, we've had rumours saying it's going to beat the 2080ti by 50% (which makes it a RTX3090 competitor) and rumours saying it might be slower than the RTX3080 - when you see such a wide range of rumours like this, it means people are just making up ****.
@five8five Right i'm 7 to 8 minutes in and he's talking about the 140 Watt claims others have made as Including the CPU, Memory and all the rest.
I don't know where he got that from but its not from me, i removed the CPU and the GDDR6 to come up with that number. Its not clear yet what he is or not including with his 180 Watt's claim.
I don't know where he got that from but its not from me, i removed the CPU and the GDDR6 to come up with that number. Its not clear yet what he is or not including with his 180 Watt's claim.
@five8five 8m 20s: he just said 180 Watt's board power minus the CPU, so including the GDDR6, that's pretty much what i said, 180 Watts with the GDDR6 and board components, remove all that, so GPU only, about 140 Watts, exactly what i said.
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Used both, no difference imo.
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