What is white privilege?

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Some things being described as woke may fly but this is just a bit silly. Its had a large impact on sports and black athletes, especially in the USA.

No. It won’t stand. He wasn’t a outstanding citizen. He was a proven “low life”. With zero decency. You don’t get grace after the things he has done. Ever.
As regards to the US and it’s sports stars you mentioned. Do you really “buy” the fake narrative. They jumped on the situation because of his death, making his story and him a poster boy to create a political race point (common in the US). Then BLM got wind and took control. The media loves the supported politics and provides opportunity to push an idea, so “promotes” the movement dramatising the ongoing situation. Then because of the media “noise” this brings sports stars across the globe begun adding their names to the hat. It’s popular. It’s keeps them in the headlines and they are black. The political ideology has morphed the situation into something incredibly different. At a time where Trump is king in America, at a time where Boris is angering the loons. Brexit on the Horizon. It’s all just very fitting time wise.
It is meant to be about police oppression. Its meant to be about equality. That black lives matter. Naively you actually do.

Its now not even close to that. It’s ideology hanging on in times of drastic political change. Just in another form.
They have even killed black shop owners and police officers, so one can “never” claim it’s about showing black lives matter. Because to the people powering the latest outburst. They don’t give two cents mate.
All this has amalgamated into an demonisation to the white in the UK. Because it’s the white indigenous that are the percent majority and mainly vote for the likes of Boris and Trump.

So with that information, your statement looks very silly and brainwashed if you think GF is anything other than a corpse that the creators of all this genuinely give two sheets about.
 
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In the context of America, white privilege is going to a BLM protest and telling a black person to go home.

This actually happened and is on video. There are also videos of white BLM supporters using the N word against black people who don't go along with the BLM agenda.

It's not the first time white people have led black organisations. For 20 years the first leader of the NAACP was white.
 
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No. It won’t stand. He wasn’t a outstanding citizen. He was a proven “low life”. With zero decency. You don’t get grace after the things he has done. Ever.
As regards to the US and it’s sports stars you mentioned. Do you really “buy” the fake narrative. They jumped on the situation because of his death, making his story and him a poster boy to create a political race point (common in the US). Then BLM got wind and took control. The media loves the supported politics and provides opportunity to push an idea, so “promotes” the movement dramatising the ongoing situation. Then because of the media “noise” this brings sports stars across the globe begun adding their names to the hat. It’s popular. It’s keeps them in the headlines and they are black. The political ideology has morphed the situation into something incredibly different. At a time where Trump is king in America, at a time where Boris is angering the loons. Brexit on the Horizon. It’s all just very fitting time wise.
It is meant to be about police oppression. Its meant to be about equality. That black lives matter. Naively you actually do.

Its now not even close to that. It’s ideology hanging on in times of drastic political change. Just in another form.
They have even killed black shop owners and police officers, so one can “never” claim it’s about showing black lives matter. Because to the people powering the latest outburst. They don’t give two cents mate.
All this has amalgamated into an demonisation to the white in the UK. Because it’s the white indigenous that are the percent majority and mainly vote for the likes of Boris and Trump.

So with that information, your statement looks very silly and brainwashed if you think GF is anything other than a corpse that the creators of all this genuinely give two sheets about.

Your reality is bizarrely twisted and I dont agree with anything you stand for, it just seems such an unpleasant place and offers no measures to better society just raging at everything from a white privileged removed zone. :)

Bottom line is the USA and to a lesser extent(imo) the UK have racism issues. That is worth standing up for, these athletes have a great platform to do that. Some aspects of BLM are unpalatable but the base message is correct.

Trump is perhaps the most unpopular president of all time and floundering badly after 4 years of chaos and criminal mismanagement. :D Boris and Brexit are dying on their ass, as predicted. :D
 
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Your reality is bizarrely twisted and I dont agree with anything you stand for, it just seems such an unpleasant place and offers no measures to better society just raging at everything from a white privileged gammon zone. :)

Bottom line is the USA and to a lesser extent(imo) the UK have racism issues. That is worth standing up for, these athletes have a great platform to do that. Some aspects of BLM are unpalatable but the base message is correct.

Trump is perhaps the most unpopular president of all time and floundering badly after 4 years of chaos and criminal mismanagement. :D Boris and Brexit are dying on their ass, as predicted. :D

Now we are beginning to see something now. The world is not what it seems is it. People lie, paint a suitable picture and go out to best themselves. Exactly what people have done with BLM for various interests.
This is the problem with the lefty brains. They simply can’t comprehend the “real world”. It’s all holding hands and singing songs in utopia that helps you sleep at night, thinking that people you follow and who promotes these Saint like societies, actually believe in it. They don’t. It’s not real or doesn’t exist. You keep on burying your head in the mud, we get that you can’t handle actual truth. Fabrication and fake utopia fits the narrative nicely, so with that you go.

You seem to be obsessed with the word “Gammon” for some reason. Do you not think that you are possibly being racist here ? Against all you apparently stand for. ?

The rest of what you wrote is just .........
 
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The base message of abolishing the police and nuclear families perhaps?

Very progressive.

After all, it's not like a movement is defined by its actions rather than what it names itself.

But you are supposed to ignore those parts. Then revert back to how positive it is.

There is nothing positive, equal about it.
All it will do is make the UK like the third world society, like where most promoting originate from.
 
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Now we are beginning to see something now. The world is not what it seems is it. People lie, paint a suitable picture and go out to best themselves. Exactly what people have done with BLM for various interests.
This is the problem with the lefty brains. They simply can’t comprehend the “real world”. It’s all holding hands and singing songs in utopia that helps you sleep at night, thinking that people you follow and who promotes these Saint like societies, actually believe in it. They don’t. It’s not real or doesn’t exist. You keep on burying your head in the mud, we get that you can’t handle actual truth. Fabrication and fake utopia fits the narrative nicely, so with that you go.

You seem to be obsessed with the word “Gammon” for some reason. Do you not think that you are possibly being racist here ? Against all you apparently stand for. ?

The rest of what you wrote is just .........

Lay some truth on us then dude. You keep telling us we don't see reality as it actually is. Why don't you actually post something of substance to educate us as to how the world is rather than post the kind of nonsense I'd expect from somebody who is avoiding taking their much needed medication. :)

I'm what you would probably term 'a leftie,' though from what I can tell you seem to brand anybody who doesn't agree with your narrow and frightening worldview as 'a leftie.' I was a lifelong Tory voter who is now fed up with what the party has become. I wrote two (published) dissertations on the virtues of Thatcher and free market economics too many years ago. I believe in social justice and the principle of noblesse oblige. Oh and that black lives matter and that that is not an in and of itself an exclusory statement.

The world is a very imperfect place. You appear to take the view that we should accept that rather than try to change it.
 
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Some aspects of BLM are unpalatable but the base message is correct.

One of the most frustrating things about the 'BLM' movement is how little scrutiny the core claims of either the movement or the organisation are subjected to in wider circles.

In short you either have to be wilfully ignorant (maybe the sort of person to use a racially pejorative insult whilst trying to make a point for supposedly "anti racist" organisation?) of clearly accessible facts or have malicious motives to support either the BLM movement or organisation.

The malicious motive is the usual one that such "activist" movements have which is agitation for the repeatedly failed ideology of socialism by trying to usher in social unrest.


One simply phrased question destroys the whole premise of so called "white privilege" ..... namely if "white privilege" is a thing that explains most or all of the disparities we see why do certain non white groups consistently outperform whites in white majority countries like the UK and USA?


BLM can mean one of two things both of which make no sense to support.

One is a violent, nasty, anti semitic, Marxist organisation that, amongst other things, wants to do away with the traditional family unit and get rid of the police.

The other is a vague sentiment following the meaning of the words in the slogan....

.... with the suggestion being that society as a whole doesn't care for black lives or cares for them less than other ethnicities.

This is demonstrable nonsense.

The single biggest cause of a violent untimely death for a black persons at the hands of another in the UK and the US is being killed by another black person.

It's true that most whites murdered are murdered by other whites but the rates for blacks killing blacks, on a per capita basis are massively higher than the rates for whites killing whites.

Interracially, on a per capita basis, blacks kill whites at around twelve times the rate as the other way around in the US.

As of July of 2016 African Americans were the largest racial minority, amounting to an estimated 12.7%

In the same year the FBI figures for homicides nationwide shows that, where the race of the offender was known, this was the break down for homicides involving blacks and whites as either victims or perpetrators.


White victim total = 3,499

Pepetrator White = 2,854
Perpetrator Black = 533

Black or African American victim total = 2,870

Perpetrator White =243
Pepetrator Black = 2,570

So what can we glean from these figures?

For whites just over 81.5% of murders were committed by other whites

and just over 15. 2‰ were committed by blacks

For Black's the figures were just over 8.46%
murded by whites


and over 89.5‰ for deaths at the hands of other blacks.

And let's look at the absolute figures..

Black's killed 533 whites when they made up 12.7‰ of the population

And whites killed 243 blacks when they made up 76.9‰ of the population

So not only did whites kill less blacks then the other way around in overall numbers they did so whilst having over six times as many people in the country!

So you could express the racial disparity in interracial homicides in the USA, on a per capita basis, between blacks and whites as being in the region of over a factor of twelve in favour of the blacks much more frequently being the perpetrators in interacial murders between the two groups (just over six times as many whites as blacks in total and in absolute figures blacks kill over twice as many whites as vice versa)

The police kill, arrest and stop a disproportionate amount of blacks based on their percentage of the population but these disparities are caused primarily by the disproportionate violent crime rates for blacks as reported by witnesses to crimes.

U.S. Department of Justice
Office of Justice Programs
Bureau of Justice Statistics

Criminal Victimization, 2017

TABLE 10
Nonfatal violent incidents, by total population, victim, and offender demographic characteristics, 2017

In about three-quarters (76%) of violent incidents where perceived offender characteristics were reported the victim perceived the offender to be male.

Based on victims’ reports, there were about four-fifths as many white offenders as the percentage of whites in the population, about twice as many black offenders as the percentage of blacks in the population, and about one-sixth as many Asian offenders as the percentage.

https://www.bjs.gov/content/pub/pdf/cv17.pdf

In the US whites arrested for violent crimes are significantly more likely to be killed by the police than blacks arrested for violent crimes.


The claim is often then made that blacks commit more crime either because they are poor or because of some legacy of suffering from slavery and segregation.

Neither of these make any sense when examined more closely.

There are nearly three times as many whites living in poverty in the US than blacks as an absolute number (the percentage for blacks as group is about double that of whites but there are far fewer blacks overall than whites).

From 2018 figures there were around 25, 295,122 White Americans living in poverty (as defined by the federal governments poverty threshold)

vs 9,148691 blacks living in poverty

https://www.povertyusa.org/facts
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/IPE120218

So if poverty was the main issue then the poor whites should be massively inflating the rate of overall violent crimes for whites vs the smaller number of blacks living in poverty on the US.

If a legacy of oppression was the cause of crime then we could expect one of the most consistently oppressed groups in all of history (the Jews) to top the per capita rates for violent crime but we don't see this.

Instead we see them and other minority groups who often entered the US poor like Koreans and Indians not only surpassing blacks in many metrics (including not being arrested or incarcerated) but also significantly beating the white majority in many cases.

The conclusion should be obvious.

Culture matters and not all cultures are equal.

Whites don't underperform Koreans in many metrics in the US due to racism, systemic or otherwise, they do so because large parts of white culture in the US are inferior to large parts of the culture adopted by Koreans living in the US when it comes to things like economic success and avoiding incarceration.

The same applies to other racial groups when compared to one another.

You can also look at the significant disparities within 'blacks' as a group.

Whites are one of the least likely of all racial groups to goto university in the UK.

Afro Caribbeans attend a rate close to whites but black Africans attend at a much higher rate than either whites or Afro Caribbeans.


Again the answer is in culture not racism.

An increasing amount of people are done taking uncritical lectures by the likes of BLM supporters, their sycophants and the degenerate Marxists taking advantage of the chaos they cause about things like supposed white privilege because their claims are all based on lies.


If you want to see a truly disgraceful example of massive unjust disproportionality consider that, based on fairy recent figures, that the ratio of interracial crime rate for violent offences in the US between Blacks and Asians was so bad that Black on Asian violent crime was around 280 times more common than the reverse

In 2018, there were 182,230 reports of Asians being victims of violent crime. The race of the offenders against Asians is as follows: 24% White and 28% Black. With that said, the U.S. population is 62% Caucasian, so you would think Caucasians would be committing more violent crimes against Asians. The black population is 12%, Hispanics are 17%, and Asians are 6% of the U.S. population. Now, there are Asians who wrong African-Americans. According to the Justice Department Chart, Page 13, Asians violently offending African-Americans is less than 0.1% of the time. Caucasian-Americans violently attack African-Americans 11% of the time.
What about Asian-on-Asian crime? Well, according to the chart because we deal with facts and statistics, rather than feelings, 76% of violent crimes against Asians were perpetrated by non-Asians. This makes Asians the most victimized race in America. Violent crimes committed by non-blacks toward African-Americans was 30%. Which means Black-on-Black violent crime is 70%. At the same time, 38% of all crimes against Caucasian-Americans was committed by non-Caucasians. Crimes against Latinos by non-Latinos were 55%.

(it should have course be mentioned that whites are massively overrepresented on a per capita basis in crimes against Asians than the reverse, just significantly less than Blacks )
 
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