What about the gtx480.
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Yes.
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It's not a double standard if AMD have nothing to compete. The 3090 can drink as much as it likes but if AMD dont come along and do it better than what's the issue? 
What about it? That card was released 10 years ago and nVidia WERE mocked for it.
What about it? That card was released 10 years ago and nVidia WERE mocked for it.
Well the cards tends to be built from the point of mainstream games which atm is dx11 based.
dx9 still exist but main is dx11 and some dx12 slowly getting there and as seen with RT, a crawl
All signs atm points to a AMD breaktrough.
So, yea it seems to indicate just that
Depends on clockspeed now and sustained clocks under load.
Point was it's an Nvidia card that wasn't the most efficient.
Well, i was more basing it on the 1.9-2.3 figure that was being quoted (i did punch the wrong number into the calculator at one point so it should say 33%-62%
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I see a lot of speculation and zero information from AMD. What signs?
it was 10 years ago mate. One card every ten years (and that's IF AMD pull something magical)? I'd say that means nvidia typically always had more efficient cards then, no?
We are both wrong, to verify.
Big Navi - 1.9X to 2.3X 5700XT: 190 FPS to 230 FPS.
2080TI:
142 FPS + 27% = 180 FPS < Your calculation.
142 FPS + 34% = 190 FPS
142 FPS + 62% = 230 FPS
Ok, I forget the naming schemes, Navi 23 is Big Navi? Navi 21 is a smaller one?
I didn't misquote you, you came across as being committed to nvidia if AMD were even on par then went off track with your car comparison!
Fair play you can wait to see before buying, its what Im doing. Dont discount comparisons to older 'yesterdays' cards as its what nvidia are currently doing, and likely what AMD will do on their press info.
Just like this breakdown here:
As a consumer though, it's pointless. I'll be comparing cards that are out now. It's all about what card is better for the price. Not what card is better than the one previous. If amd is the better choice, I'll buy amd. I've nearly always bought amd as I'm tight, and wait out for a bargain deal. As Amd always get good discount/game bundle deals.
Yes i corrected it before your post, i punched the wrong number (132 instead of 142) into my calculator
So yes it is ~33.8% - 61.9%
I think realistically, if that rather ropey looking slide is true, it's likely going to be roughly around 3080 performance with the standard variation you get between games. If they have started at "1.9", knowing marketing speak, it is likely more often than not 1.9x faster than the 5700xt with a few games netting a bigger increase.
At least it will have 16gb of vram though, and it will be interesting to see where they price it. They could really take it to Nvidia if they prices it at £500 or less.
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Navi 21 is the big one
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Navi 21 is the bigger one. We don't know if the card leaked uses a cut down die??
Well, i was more basing it on the 1.9-2.3 figure that was being quoted (i did punch the wrong number into the calculator at one point so it should say 33%-62%
Yea suckerpunched yourself, happens now and then.
Those that with an ability to educated guess properly on various stuff rumored
We should have calculators that tells us when we do punch stuff wrong.
(skynet helps)
n21.
n22
n23 as far we seen but then again, maybe smoke and mirrors from amd to aib to find leaks
Yes i corrected it before your post, i punched the wrong number (132 instead of 142) into my calculator
So yes it is ~33.8% - 61.9%
I think realistically, if that rather ropey looking slide is true, it's likely going to be roughly around 3080 performance with the standard variation you get between games. If they have started at "1.9", knowing marketing speak, it is likely more often than not 1.9x faster than the 5700xt with a few games netting a bigger increase.
At least it will have 16gb of vram though, and it will be interesting to see where they price it. They could really take it to Nvidia if they prices it at £500 or less.
I think its because RDNA and RDNA2 are not apples to apples, don't forget RDNA still has a lot of GCN in it, all of that is gone from RDNA2, the +17% IPC probably doesn't scale universally.
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So no signs then? Do me a lemon and please, don't talk about our 'ability to educated guess' because time and time again we've proven as a community that we get it wrong almost all the time. Sepculation is one thing, but believing you're right without ANY information from AMD is foolish. But you go ahead, the rest of us will watch it all unfold
lol...
Are you complaining about him complaining about speculation on a speculation thread? If you are I'm going to put in a complaint about it.
Yea suckerpunched yourself, happens now and then.
My fundamentals were correct! Although, yes i should probably check i hadn't fumbled the keyboard input first before questioning someone else's figures
That's a little odd, to have a 256Bit flagship card of that size. I guess the Big Navi Block Diagram was fake? That had a 384Bit Bus, did he say anything about that?
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