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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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humbug said:
Yeah i had one of those :D and a 290.

That slide, here it is in my stash, has 6 Quad Channel 64Bit IMC's, 384Bit. i can't see anyone doing a 512Bit GPU these days, at that point it would be better to put HBM on it.

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TBF,if AMD can improve their memory bandwidth utilisation then there is no reason they can't get RTX3070 level performance on a 256 bit memory bus. If they could do that,that would help improve efficiency and lower BOM for the AMD GPUs significantly.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
TBF,if AMD can improve their memory bandwidth utilisation then there is no reason they can't get RTX3070 level performance on a 256 bit memory bus. If they could do that,that would help improve efficiency and lower BOM for the AMD GPUs significantly.
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They wouldn't do that with an 80 CU GPU tho?
 
TonyTurbo78 said:
No different to tdp and heat either. AMD make a card that requires 300w and the usual Nvidiots come out mocking the hell out of it finding every meme possible playing on the power and heat issues calling it a disaster. Nvidia bring out a 350w card at extortionate pricing and those same Nvidiots get the tissues out fapping over how incredible the card will be and how much power will be used. All of a sudden the electric bill isn't an issue.
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There is a differences between having a high TDP card and having a high TDP card with performance to match. Navi has high power consumption for the performance it gives on the process is on reaching Pascal PPW on 7nm vs 16nm.

Say the 3090 has 2080ti performance on 350w it would be a speed and design fail of the FX gpu level. But 2x+ performance and 2x the Ram on a 350w card that is not to bad is it?
 
KillBoY_UK said:
Intel have a lot of fingers in a lot of pies not just CPU's (Nic's, modems, nand, ssd controllers, gpu's etc) as well as the fab stuff
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I still think its pretty amazing AMD are where they are considering they are fighting two fronts against two bigger companies producing two different core products.
 
KillBoY_UK said:
There is a differences between having a high TDP card and having a high TDP card with performance to match. Navi has high power consumption for the performance it gives on the process is on reaching Pascal PPW on 7nm vs 16nm.

Say the 3090 has 2080ti performance on 350w it would be a speed and design fail of the FX gpu level. But 2x+ performance and 2x the Ram on a 350w card that is not to bad is it?
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350w is due to samsungs 8nm its basically, broken.
Yields are likely to be really not good.

KiNgPiN83 said:
I still think its pretty amazing AMD are where they are considering they are fighting two fronts against two bigger companies producing two different core products.
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Takes time to dig themselves out of the hole Bulldozer created and the wide spread approach used. Lisa Su and others streamlined amd to take their knowledge and expertise to products they could be making a profit from and then all in on Ryzen development and the all in on 7nm has paid off big time now.

They are making Intel a sidelined audience atm.
that 10nm fiasco hurt Intel maybe even, too much as AMD built a brand of mindshare with Ryzen.
(server is another beast tho)
 
humbug said:
The problem is people like JayZ2Cents who constantly bangs on about how he's not an Nvidia fanboy because he gets accused of it constantly, which he probably believes that he's not.... And then he says stupid things like "There is no way AMD could ever catch Nvidia, i mean think about it they have to increase the performance of the 5700XT by 350% to match the 2080TI"

And his post Ampere reveal video was a cringe fest of sycophantic dribbling about how brilliant Ampere is and "Nvidia never exaggerate anything, not like AMD do"

And he's far from the only one who has this deranged almost religious reaction to Nvidia, just watch pretty much all the main reviewers Ampere follow-up videos, they are all the same. Other than Hardware Unboxed that is... this is what AMD are up against, a religion. Religious people don't realize they are nuts!
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Lol, too true:D
 
RBImGuy said:
350w is due to samsungs 8nm its basically, broken.
Yields are likely to be really not good
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Nope the 8nm is a robust process with a D0 of approx 0.12 defects per sq cm. There are not going to be any supply issues whatsoever... infact Nvidia might be purposely binning good 3090 cores just for product positioning purposes
 
Th0nt said:
According to sources, I thought nvidia had 80% of the market share though???
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I should have qualified that as many of the informed undecided. As you mention Nvidia has most of the market, many of whom will by blindly. Others will only buy AMD, both sides can miss out. This time is definitely one to sit back and wait for reviews. Sadly furlough has eaten all my funds so I'll be just a spectator.
 
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