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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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Howling said:
I'll be honest, I think that's why nVidia pushed the review embargo back to the 16th. If reviews dropped on the 14th that would have given AMD firm numbers to drop an announcement/leak on 15th/16th that showed big navi beating them. However likely you think the scenario might be, pushing the embargo back to 16th shuts the door for any possible AMD marketing before release on 17th.

Edit: Obviously AMD could make a blind announcement without firm nVidia numbers - but it's more of a gamble for them.
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Or they could look at the reviews on the 16th and post something on the same day?

They already know what their own GPU's can do. They only need the Nvidia info to decide *how* they want to present what they already know about their own hardware.
 
I do wonder if AMD has a condition in their console agreements that any PC parts must be inferior, it is odd the performance the consoles can get is so vastly different to their PC parts.
 
chrcoluk said:
I do wonder if AMD has a condition in their console agreements that any PC parts must be inferior, it is odd the performance the consoles can get is so vastly different to their PC parts.
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You ever heard about not bothering about investing extra money to optimize code cause its not worth it. Want FPS on PC ?? Buy 3x power of hardware in console.
 
Rroff said:
Not very though he had/has videos covering most angles - he claimed a bunch of new feature technologies that at best are tenuously similar to actual new tech in Ampere, his initial claim was his reliable source apparently claimed TSMC 7nm would be used for the 3080/3090 (I can't remember what produce numbers he used but basically pointing at those tiers) and Samsung 8nm for the lower end cards, then that changed to TSMC 7nm through the stack then eventually Samsung 8nm, etc.

EDIT: His "full" leak and IMO what he should be judged on as it presents some degree of exclusivity whereas the later information that is more correct is posted after the fact when other reliable sources have covered it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCPufeQmFJk

Top end GA102 card would be 220w, 2.2GHz clock, 864GB/s memory bandwidth, 5376 cores, built on TSMC 7nm, come with DLSS 3.0.

I'll leave the audience to decide.
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I must admit I am quite leniant with my judgements, but then I also don't hold much weight on certain things that are brought up in these videos, because i have seen how product specifications change (different industry) throughout development. I've seen leaked information that was correct at the time of someone writing the article, change as the development progressed.

In general because of what i know about product development and how it changes, I am mainly looking at the stuff that is harder to change or cancel during development. Things relating the architecture of the GPU. If that stuff is right or in the general ball park then i simply view the other stuff as the development histroy of the card. Things that the company tried to do but ultimately couldn't achieve for reasons we don't know.

As an example for some of the things you've listed(such as 7nm and 2.2GHz), I would mainly look at is this is was a chip or a set of chips that Nvidia had and were testing at the time before ultimately deciding not to proceed, for a reason we don't know.
 
Zeed said:
You ever heard about not bothering about investing extra money to optimize code cause its not worth it. Want FPS on PC ?? Buy 3x power of hardware in console.
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The console runs at lower resolution and lower quality settings while upscaling. PCs do all the terrible heavy stuff like post-processing and no upscaling, except some settings like Radeon Boost or DLSS.
 
******* hilarious that when the 3080 AoTS benchmarks were leaked everyone was chomping at the bit to say how much of a CPU benchmark it is.

By comparison a leak of an unknown Navi benchmark leaks and people are instantly. iT oNLy JUsT bEaTs 2080tI LOL!!!!

The mindshare is real.
 
Twinz said:
Or they could look at the reviews on the 16th and post something on the same day?

They already know what their own GPU's can do. They only need the Nvidia info to decide *how* they want to present what they already know about their own hardware.
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Marketing 101 - you don't release big info on the same day as other big info. We, mere mortals, have tiny capacity for information absorption :p
 
Kashinoda said:
******* hilarious that when the 3080 AoTS benchmarks were leaked everyone was chomping at the bit to say how much of a CPU benchmark it is.

By comparison a leak of an unknown Navi benchmark leaks and people are instantly. iT oNLy JUsT bEaTs 2080tI LOL!!!!

The mindshare is real.
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All about that mindshare.
 
Howling said:
Marketing 101 - you don't release big info on the same day as other big info. We, mere mortals, have tiny capacity for information absorption :p
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I'm not as likely to buy AMD's product if I just bought their competitor's product. They must have learned that at marketing school too?

Right now, it looks like Nvidia has given me almost exactly what I asked for at the price I wanted and AMD has not given me a reason to wait.
 
4K8KW10 said:
The console runs at lower resolution and lower quality settings while upscaling. PCs do all the terrible heavy stuff like post-processing and no upscaling, except some settings like Radeon Boost or DLSS.
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All that maters is how good it looks could be bunch of ELFEs in Consoles if they delivered i would not care :D Console ecclusives use some epic tricks gott a be honest.
 
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